[cfromhx02]

I noticed the other day how Bruce didn't accept naturally Lauren's genuinely caring hug.He looked uncomfortable (a sign of a bigot who isn't admitting so) and went red faced and quickly grabbed a cigarrette as an excuse to get away from her.

Also we all know the real truth about why Ron wanted to put up Lauren.

So in tonight's BB (which is yesterday for them in the house of course) he said he couldn't stand anyone who exhibited themselves when talking about Lauren in the cage.

No one notice he didn't have a problem with Courtney exhibiting herself in the cage and doesn't have a problem with her walking around most of the time with half her tit hanging out of her too small bikini tops.I don't have a problem with Courtney, she's a lovely girl and has a good heart.

So Bruce obviously automatically feels different about Lauren even though he's not openly saying it, his reactions about her show what he is, he is just another completely uneducated about transgendered bigot.

I've got one word for him and anyone else who insists transgendered people aren't the gender they say they are :-

Read

[Shaun]

I'm inclined to say his objection to her cage-dancing (and not Courtney) is more out of a childish "ew she's ugly" stance rather than anything you're suggesting.

[Waynoo]

Sorry but I wouldn't want to watch lauren dance half naked either. That doesn't make me a bigot.

[Videostar]

Originally Posted by Waynoo

Sorry but I wouldn't want to watch lauren dance half naked either. That doesn't make me a bigot.

Hear hear.

But according to the OP we must all find Lauren attractive or we are bigots.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Waynoo

Sorry but I wouldn't want to watch lauren dance half naked either. That doesn't make me a bigot.

No, but it makes him a massive hypocrite the way he said his problem was that he hates her exhibitionist behaviour...when he was loving others displaying the same behaviour

[Videostar]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

No, but it makes him a massive hypocrite the way he said his problem was that he hates her exhibitionist behaviour...when he was loving others displaying the same behaviour

I would enjoy Courtney or Sophie cage dancing, but if Bruce got in there I'd be complaining too, does that make me a hypocrite? ...it's all about looks and what floats out boat.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Videostar

I would enjoy Courtney or Sophie cage dancing, but if Bruce got in there I'd be complaining too, does that make me a hypocrite? ...it's all about looks and what floats out boat.

No you misunderstand me. He said his problem was that by cage dancing, she was being an exhibitionist and it was the exhibitionist behaviour that he disliked. While having no problem with others doing the same thing...

Had he said that he just didnt want to see it, he wouldnt be a hypocrite

[Videostar]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

No you misunderstand me. He said his problem was that by cage dancing, she was being an exhibitionist and it was the exhibitionist behaviour that he disliked. While having no problem with others doing the same thing...

Had he said that he just didnt want to see it, he wouldnt be a hypocrite

Well, maybe he didn't want to come across as being mean about Lauren's looks.

However I would have just walked into the next room and burned my eyes out with a lighter.

[RodHull]

Can see both sides of this argument...

Its true that actually I dont want to see Lauren cage dancing either, the same way I dont want to see Carol or Vicky cage dancing... nothing transphobic, just dont want to see old/ulgy people gyrating half naked on TV.

However the way Bruce presented his objections do indicate bigoted views. If its exhibitionism he dislikes then he should hate Courtney, Charlotte and Carol to some degree (she makes a show of herself every night now) But it was just Lauren, if it was just down to a looks thing why not say that??

Clearly him and Ron didn't understand or want to be around Lauren, I doubt either wish her any harm but they are what they are, old fashioned misogynists with outdated views from a bygone era.

[Pincho Paxton]

Originally Posted by cfromhx02

I noticed the other day how Bruce didn't accept naturally Lauren's genuinely caring hug.He looked uncomfortable (a sign of a bigot who isn't admitting so) and went red faced and quickly grabbed a cigarrette as an excuse to get away from her.

Also we all know the real truth about why Ron wanted to put up Lauren.

So in tonight's BB (which is yesterday for them in the house of course) he said he couldn't stand anyone who exhibited themselves when talking about Lauren in the cage.

No one notice he didn't have a problem with Courtney exhibiting herself in the cage and doesn't have a problem with her walking around most of the time with half her tit hanging out of her too small bikini tops.I don't have a problem with Courtney, she's a lovely girl and has a good heart.

So Bruce obviously automatically feels different about Lauren even though he's not openly saying it, his reactions about her show what he is, he is just another completely uneducated about transgendered bigot.

I've got one word for him and anyone else who insists transgendered people aren't the gender they say they are :-

Read

Again? Really?

[fingers]

Is it bigoted to say that anti-transphobia rants are becoming tiresome?

[Johnnyuk123]

Jealousy of a housemate gaining public popularity with each episode is grating isn't it?

[Videostar]

Originally Posted by Johnnyuk123

Jealousy of a housemate gaining public popularity with each episode is grating isn't it?

No, not as long as that HM is gaining public popularity for the right reasons, for being the best HM of that series.

If Lauren wins it wont have been an accident that Nadia, Luke A and maybe Lauren all would have won, the only 3 trans gendered people ever to enter the BB house and all 3 would have won...NO ONE is going to tell me that out of 50+ HM's that entered with them that those 3 just happened to be the best HM's of the lot.

The odds don't back that up.

[fingers]

They're jealous of Courtney?

[Pincho Paxton]

Bruce was a long way away, he might have thought it was Courtney in the cage.

[Pincho Paxton]

I wasn't a fan of Nadia. I didn't expect her to win. She had a big argument in the house as well.

[Videostar]

Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

I wasn't a fan of Nadia. I didn't expect her to win. She had a big argument in the house as well.

Nadia could have murdered a cat in that house and everyone would still have supported Nadia....life story HM's aren't judged fairly compared to regular HM's.

[Dionkan]

I'm not a bigot, but the sight of Lauren dancing in that cage put me off my toasted cheese

[_catapult_]

Oh come on everyone lets all go read!!! ....

Transphobia, don't make me laugh, she's an ugly half-woman with serious mental issues, not everybody is going to like somebody like that, that's life, people are entitled to feel that way

[Northern Monkey]

Courtney is sexy and attractive in the cage,Lauren is definately not.I don't find ex men attractive because i am straight.That does'nt make me a biggot,That makes me a straight man.It's Bruces perfect right to express his OPINION of what he likes to see.Calling people names like 'biggot' won't change the fact that straight men don't usually find transgender's attractive because they are straight!

[_catapult_]

@richardg, I'm sorry are you implying there is zero difference between Lauren and your wife/girlfriend/yourself ??? The vast majority of men would not want to be with somebody who used to be a man, that's just a fact and doesn't
Make them bad people or transphobic or any such nonsense.

I personally have nothing against any TG but hate the ridiculous suggestion there is no difference or that anybody who doesn't share the ops opinion is a bigot... but sure we can call her anything u find acceptable my point is the same

[Videostar]

Originally Posted by _catapult_

I'm sorry are you implying there is zero difference between Lauren and your wife/girlfriend/yourself ??? The vast majority of men would not want to be with somebody who used to be a man, that's just a fact and doesn't
Make them bad people or transphobic or any such nonsense.

I totally agree with you there.

If most straight people are honest they wouldn't knowingly get intimate with a trans gendered person, it doesn't mean they are nasty and they could be polite about it but it's just fact not many people would be at ease with the whole situation.

[RichardG]

Originally Posted by _catapult_

@richardg, I'm sorry are you implying there is zero difference between Lauren and your wife/girlfriend/yourself ??? The vast majority of men would not want to be with somebody who used to be a man, that's just a fact and doesn't
Make them bad people or transphobic or any such nonsense.

I personally have nothing against any TG but hate the ridiculous suggestion there is no difference or that anybody who doesn't share the ops opinion is a bigot... but sure we can call her anything u find acceptable my point is the same

I deleted that post ages ago because I didn't want to get into an argument

And, uhh, no, you're right, many men would not want to be with her. When did I suggest otherwise?? I just didn't see the need to write "half-woman". She may have been born into a male body but she considers herself to be fully woman, so why refer to her as any different?

[_catapult_]

Originally Posted by RichardG

I deleted that post ages ago because I didn't want to get into an argument

And, uhh, no, you're right, many men would not want to be with her. When did I suggest otherwise?? I just didn't see the need to write "half-woman". She may have been born into a male body but she considers herself to be fully woman, so why refer to her as any different?

Ummm.. because shes not? Isn't that what I just said? Or are you infact saying there is no difference?

[Vicky.]

I disagree completely with the OPs obsession with putting every little thing down to Lauren being transgendered.

I understand if Bruce didn't want to see Lauren cagedancing. IMO she is not an attractive woman like Courtney is. Its nothing to do with her being trans..I just dont think shes goodlooking. And I should be able to say that without being accused of transphobia, which will no doubt come soon

However my problem is how he made out it was the exhibitionist behavior that he didnt like, instead of just being honest. I think he made himself look a right tit, and a hypocrite.