[Firewire]

Don't get too excited.

Katy Manley and Susy Price are now creative directors taking over from Denis O'Connor. Both previously were executive producers on the show.

Andrew Jackman who runs The Only Way Is Essex will be executive producer alongside Shannon Delwiche who produced E4's Tool Academy.

More here: http://www.bbspy.co.uk/cbb17/news/12...tive-producers

[Denver]

So they are making it more scripted type of ****

[Jordan.]

Andrew Jackman who runs The Only Way Is Essex will be executive producer alongside Shannon Delwiche who produced E4's Tool Academy.

A worrying sign

[Loukas]

[RichardG]

Doesn't really give you much hope for these "massive changes" we were promised and our expectations were already low to begin with.

[mrmattybeck1]

Andrew Jackman was at big brother in its earlier days I believe

[Jay.]

NOT tool academy

[Will.]

Andrew Jackman was on BB in like the early days. somewhere around 2000-2007.

[Pete.]

There are no words

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by Good Grinch

Andrew Jackman was on BB in like the early days. somewhere around 2000-2007.

He was an editor, but he's still the executive producer of TOWIE so it's not looking good.

[Jake.]

Meh, it honestly cannot get anyworse. I'd happily take a more towieish production over the non stop twists and manipulation we have now

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by Noel Raymonds

Meh, it honestly cannot get anyworse. I'd happily take a more towieish production over the non stop twists and manipulation we have now

BB12 teas?

[Cal.]

We were so close

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by reece(:

BB12 teas?

I'd honestly rather have it like that

[Jake.]

(Than 15/16 that is, CBB16 was fine)

[Rob!]

Omg

[MB.]

I'm seeing four names and none of them are gamepodfan

[zakman440]

I'm willing to give this a chance tbh. Anything's got to be better than what's happened this year.

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by Zesus440

I'm willing to give this a chance tbh. Anything's got to be better than what's happened this year.

Both celebrity series were brilliant though - it was only the civilian series that went through the floor.

[MB.]

Which is because the current producers turn into headless chickens who run around and end up falling into their own faeces when faced with the prospect of a 60+ day series

[JoshBB]

I'm not even surprised anymore.

[Rob!]

Tbf the civilian series went to **** because they were ratings chasing. Whilst to the die hards it was one of the best first two weeks ever, the majority of viewers found the lack of conflict boring. Once 4 in 4 out happened, they just pushed the original housemates aside.

[mrmattybeck1]

Originally Posted by EggRob!

Tbf the civilian series went to **** because they were ratings chasing. Whilst to the die hards it was one of the best first two weeks ever, the majority of viewers found the lack of conflict boring. Once 4 in 4 out happened, they just pushed the original housemates aside.

Absolutely I loved the first few weeks normal conversations it was like the early days