[arista]

Reported on all news and radio.

Strict Muslim Schools in trouble,
might be single sex schools

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...education.html

[JoshBB]

I think students need to be able to see the face of their teacher, so this is fine imo.

[Crimson Dynamo]

why have we got "strict Muslim schools" in the UK?

holy mother of god

[arista]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

why have we got "strict Muslim schools" in the UK?

holy mother of god

New Labour Tony Blair's fault

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

why have we got "strict Muslim schools" in the UK?

holy mother of god

What a strange phrase for a self proclaimed atheist, all this religious jibber jabber has an unfortunate effect doesn't it?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

What a strange phrase for a self proclaimed atheist, all this religious jibber jabber has an unfortunate effect doesn't it?

i was being ironic

innit

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i was being ironic

innit

Oh, I thought they'd gotten to you then ...phew.
All in all it's just another brick in the wall.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i was being ironic

innit

But this is about Muslims.

sacred sister of allah would've been much more effective.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

why have we got "strict Muslim schools" in the UK?

holy mother of god

For the same reason that we have (seemingly endless numbers of) "strict Catholic schools" in the UK.

Of course, in my opinion we shouldn't have either. Religion is the antithesis of education. However I wouldn't advocate banning one until we're willing to ban all.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

For the same reason that we have (seemingly endless numbers of) "strict Catholic schools" in the UK.

Of course, in my opinion we shouldn't have either. Religion is the antithesis of education. However I wouldn't advocate banning one until we're willing to ban all.

Not sure why you just pointed out catholic schools which incidentally cover all faiths in their RE lessons, as there as just as many strict jewish and church of England schools. Do strict muslim schools touch on other religions in their RE lessons do you know?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Not sure why you just pointed out catholic schools which incidentally cover all faiths in their RE lessons, as there as just as many strict jewish and church of England schools. Do strict muslim schools touch on other religions in their RE lessons do you know?

I "just" pointed out Catholic schools as they are (by far) the most widespread faith-based schools in the UK. Obviously I am aware that there are other faith-based schools. I don't believe there should be any.

I neither know nor care whether Muslim schools cover other religions in the religious education classes. It's irrelevant. Schools should touch on each religion equally and briefly, as historical fiction and superstition, along with dragons and the Minotaur.

They could cover the social and political consequences of religion more thoroughly in History, Sociology, Politics... etc.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I "just" pointed out Catholic schools as they are (by far) the most widespread faith-based schools in the UK. Obviously I am aware that there are other faith-based schools. I don't believe there should be any.

I neither know nor care whether Muslim schools cover other religions in the religious education classes. It's irrelevant. Schools should touch on each religion equally, as historical fiction and superstition, along with dragons and the Minotaur.

Its not irrelevant at all, muslim schools should be required to promote inclusion like all other schools have too, I would like to know from someone who actually knows if this happens

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I "just" pointed out Catholic schools as they are (by far) the most widespread faith-based schools in the UK. Obviously I am aware that there are other faith-based schools. I don't believe there should be any.

I neither know nor care whether Muslim schools cover other religions in the religious education classes. It's irrelevant. Schools should touch on each religion equally and briefly, as historical fiction and superstition, along with dragons and the Minotaur.

They could cover the social and political consequences of religion more thoroughly in History, Sociology, Politics... etc.

No body forces any parent to send their school to a faith school, why would you want do deny this right to parents who want to

[Vicky.]

I still think the coverall veil should be banned everywhere in this country, and I don't particularly care how many disagree with me either.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I still think the coverall veil should be banned everywhere in this country, and I don't particularly care how many disagree with me either.

For security reasons?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

For security reasons?

Mainly yeah..but also I do feel Muslim women are forced into wearing them sometimes too.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Mainly yeah..but also I do feel Muslim women are forced into wearing them sometimes too.

I agree with you about the security issues. There has to be a time and place where women can be asked to downsize to the hijab (headscarf) for identification reasons. I also imagine it would be very difficult to read and write whilst wearing the burqa in school and quite difficult for the teacher to see if the school girl is actually paying attention.

I also think some women are forced to wear the burqa but a lot aren't and if we take away choice from the women who choose to wear it, that makes us as repressive as the husbands who force it on their wives.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I still think the coverall veil should be banned everywhere in this country, and I don't particularly care how many disagree with me either.

disgusting oppression and superstition of a cult

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I still think the coverall veil should be banned everywhere in this country, and I don't particularly care how many disagree with me either.

Surprisingly perhaps I agree with you.

[jennyjuniper]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I still think the coverall veil should be banned everywhere in this country, and I don't particularly care how many disagree with me either.

I do too.If people want to wear veils or burkahs then let them do it in a country where that is the norm.

[empire]

its time we get rid of religious schools, they have no place in today's world,

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by empire

its time we get rid of religious schools, they have no place in today's world,

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by empire

its time we get rid of religious schools, they have no place in today's world,

I actually agree with this too..religion and education should be kept separate. Also RE should focus on many different religions rather than mainly one or two. Our school was predominately Christian though it was not a faith school or anything, and nearly all of our RE lessons were learning about the bible and stuff. I would have much preferred learning about more interesting things...I had my grandma to teach me about jesus and such

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I actually agree with this too..religion and education should be kept separate. Also RE should focus on many different religions rather than mainly one or two. Our school was predominately Christian though it was not a faith school or anything, and nearly all of our RE lessons were learning about the bible and stuff. I would have much preferred learning about more interesting things...I had my grandma to teach me about jesus and such

we should teach our children that all religions are cults and wrong, we should tell them why religions develops and teach them the best science we know

all children should be aware that ALL gods are false

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I actually agree with this too..religion and education should be kept separate. Also RE should focus on many different religions rather than mainly one or two. Our school was predominately Christian though it was not a faith school or anything, and nearly all of our RE lessons were learning about the bible and stuff. I would have much preferred learning about more interesting things...I had my grandma to teach me about jesus and such

..it does actually Vick, focus on many religions/cultures etc in a lot of schools and has a focus on each religion covered of tolerance and non prejudice of all religions and cultures...