[Paula D]

Danan is starting to do my head in over the drinking.

Last night saying he'd love to have a drink and telling the others to shut up because they were enjoying one.

And going on at Sarah cause he wants to have someone else sober maybe?

It's really annoying.

I gave up drink a long time ago and I NEVER ever comment on someone else's drinking or tell anyone that I'm dying for a drink, it's just so rude.

Same as a reformed smoker, nothing worse.

[Crimson Dynamo]

As a problem drinker (I assume that is what you meant?) you will know that if you dont vocalise stuff like that it will end up picking a drink up

Very brave of Paul I thought

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

As a problem drinker (I assume that is what you meant?) you will know that if you dont vocalise stuff like that it will end up picking a drink up

Very brave of Paul I thought

ex alcoholics don't drink, problem drinkers drink.

There is a time and a place for venting, the safety of a meeting perhaps... not a reality tv show.

He is not brave he is vulnerable, the desire for a drink proves that, he should remove himself from the situation entirely otherwise he risks relapse.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

ex alcoholics don't drink, problem drinkers drink.

There is a time and a place for venting, the safety of a meeting perhaps... not a reality tv show.

He is not brave he is vulnerable, the desire for a drink proves that, he should remove himself from the situation entirely otherwise he risks relapse.

there are no ex alcoholics

[Vanessa]

He's trying very hard not to drink. It's not easy for an ex alcoholic. But at least he's trying.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

He's trying very hard not to drink. It's not easy for an ex alcoholic. But at least he's trying.

if he was trying he wouldn't be doing BB knowing the temptation of drink would be there every night

[Paula D]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

He's trying very hard not to drink. It's not easy for an ex alcoholic. But at least he's trying.

First up there's no such thing as an ex alcoholic.

Secondly, I never said he wasn't trying, I said he shouldn't be trying to make others feel guilty for it.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

there are no ex alcoholics

Well there are those who say that, personally I prefer to look at the positive and say today I am an ex alcoholic. You can say what you like.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Well there are those who say that, personally I prefer to look at the positive and say today I am an ex alcoholic. You can say what you like.

Yes, much better way of looking at it (and congrats on still being dry..I remember speaking to you years back about this )

There ARE ex-alcoholics BUT I think the temptation never goes away. So you can stop the drinking but its always there in the back of your mind. Some people are strong enough to ignore it, but it is still always there. My view on addictions , definitely been this way with my addictions anyway

[Paula D]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

As a problem drinker (I assume that is what you meant?) you will know that if you dont vocalise stuff like that it will end up picking a drink up

Very brave of Paul I thought

The place to vocalise it is not when other people are drinking. That's what BB is there for and they have a psychologist they can speak to.

If he can't cope with other people drinking then he shouldn't be in there and he was calling Sarah fragile?

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

As a problem drinker (I assume that is what you meant?) you will know that if you dont vocalise stuff like that it will end up picking a drink up

Very brave of Paul I thought

Brave for him maybe but a pain in the arse for everyone else, there is nothing worse than a reformed drinker/smoker

I would pour mine over him if he kept going on about it

[Kizzy]

I 100% agree Paula he is a total arse, I gave up drinking almost 5yrs ago and like you I wouldn't dream of commenting on anyone elses drinking habits or attempt to advise others.
I feel it's impossible to do that, if you want to stop it has to come from within. All he's doing is jeopardising his own sobriety and alienating sarah.

[Ellen]

Agree with Paula and Kizzy. Not his place tbh

[AnnieK]

I wasn't watching it properly last night but the bit I saw in the garden was him sating he really wanted a drink and derek advising and helping him to avoid it. I think he is still at the stage where he needs some assistance so think its good he can talk about it. I didnt see the interaction with sarah though so cant comment on that. Dealing with addiction is very individual, my only concern is where he is in his sobriety being around.people drinking may have been a mistake

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I am sure that Paul is on some sort of medication as he slurs a lot of the time?

I said this a few days ago actually. He reminds me of me when I have taken my meds. I really need them and am meant to take them all of the time but I can only take them on a night as I slur and fall into things And I don't think its right for the kids to see me like that

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

if he was trying he wouldn't be doing BB knowing the temptation of drink would be there every night

Its a job though..the temptation of drink is around everyone in everyday life tbh

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I wasn't watching it properly last night but the bit I saw in the garden was him sating he really wanted a drink and derek advising and helping him to avoid it. I think he is still at the stage where he needs some assistance so think its good he can talk about it. I didnt see the interaction with sarah though so cant comment on that. Dealing with addiction is very individual, my only concern is where he is in his sobriety being around.people drinking may have been a mistake

I would definitely agree with this. On tonights show though he was way OTT with Sarah, especially as he heard what she had said second hand so it could have been misunderstood or something. He seems extremely touchy when anyone mentions drink (or drugs) so I think the fight is always on his mind. I do think, yet again, Sarah wound it up a lot on purpose too...when he was upset about all of that and shes like 'have you had a drink tonight Paul?'...

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I wasn't watching it properly last night but the bit I saw in the garden was him sating he really wanted a drink and derek advising and helping him to avoid it. I think he is still at the stage where he needs some assistance so think its good he can talk about it. I didnt see the interaction with sarah though so cant comment on that. Dealing with addiction is very individual, my only concern is where he is in his sobriety being around.people drinking may have been a mistake

I agree. I think he was sensible to reveal he was struggling at that moment and to talk to someone about it in order to overcome his temptation. I don't think he was trying to make others feel guilty but just trying to address his own difficulties.

It wouldn't bother me if I was drinking and someone discussed their issues as Paul did and it wouldn't make me feel guilty- I don't think that was Paul's intention either.

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by Garfie

I agree. I think he was sensible to reveal he was struggling at that moment and to talk to someone about it in order to overcome his temptation. I don't think he was trying to make others feel guilty but just trying to address his own difficulties.

It wouldn't bother me if I was drinking and someone discussed their issues as Paul did and it wouldn't make me feel guilty- I don't think that was Paul's intention either.

If his problem is still so acute, then he should have turned down the invite, but of course, like most of them in there, celebrity is more important than their actual lives!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

If his problem is still so acute, then he should have turned down the invite, but of course, like most of them in there, celebrity is more important than their actual lives!

Yeah definitely, he doesn't seem like someone who's dealt with their issues enough to be able to handle a situation like Big Brother

[Paula D]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I wasn't watching it properly last night but the bit I saw in the garden was him sating he really wanted a drink and derek advising and helping him to avoid it. I think he is still at the stage where he needs some assistance so think its good he can talk about it. I didnt see the interaction with sarah though so cant comment on that. Dealing with addiction is very individual, my only concern is where he is in his sobriety being around.people drinking may have been a mistake

If he's still at the stage where he's struggling constantly he definitely shouldn't be in there.

[Kizzy]

I felt sorry for derek stuck talking him down like his flipping sponsor, he's not there to be danans crutch :/
Bit of a karmic kick in the crotch to accuse others of being sensitive and fragile and then having to spend an evening being counselled by a psychic :/

[Paula D]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I felt sorry for derek stuck talking him down like his flipping sponsor, he's not there to be danans crutch :/
Bit of a karmic kick in the crotch to accuse others of being sensitive and fragile and then having to spend an evening being counselled by a psychic :/

I know yeah, talk about a buzz kill.

[Locke.]

Think the horrible bastards need to have a bit of consideration for their leader and take up sobriety for the 3 weeks with him. Disgusting that they have the nerve to drink infront of both him and Sarah knowing the problems they've had.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I am sure that Paul is on some sort of medication as he slurs a lot of the time?

[ebandit]

..did ya see shaun savour his beer..........made it more enjoyable!

Mark L

[Crimson Dynamo]

At least Paul is still dry unlike Sarah who caved after a few days and attacked Amelia