[elliebrew]

Really on the verge of giving up on this

Why is everything about Zelah and the LGBTQ drama

It’s so draining
And this is coming from a gay man

It’s all just so over the top, the traumatised crying

It’s just too much

[Crimson Dynamo]

100% agree

They have jumped the shark

[Swan]

It's pathetic

[Lister of Smeg]

Generation of weaklings George is the only one with a backbone rest are hyper moral cowards.

[Glenn.]

No one is forcing you to watch.

[MTVN]

A very strong episode tonight, great television

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by MTVN

A very strong episode tonight, great television

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

A very strong episode tonight, great television

Strongest episode of the series so far.

[GoldHeart]

I haven't watched back tonight's episode yet ,but it sounds like another dragged out tired drama situation .

On another note @elliebrew I thought you were a woman all this time ,I think I've misgendered you...ooops .

[bots]

to think that warnings used to be issued for actual fights or spitting etc .... the producers are basically saying BB is now a fairy tale world, not based on lifes reality at all

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

No one is forcing you to watch.

TBF old habits die hard

[Ray.]

Felt more sorry for Caroline than Zelah tbh. Being made to feel emotionally distressed over wrong think

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Ray.

Felt more sorry for Caroline than Zelah tbh. Being made to feel emotionally distressed over wrong think

She made a call and lost big time!

She knew her comment was potentially hurtful but reckoned that everyone would think the comment was hilarious and took a gamble


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[elliebrew]

Def felt more for Caroline there

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Ray.

Felt more sorry for Caroline than Zelah tbh. Being made to feel emotionally distressed over wrong think

I wouldn't say I feel sorry for her, but only because I think she willingly took a risk and didn't anticipate it would blow up. She's been testing the waters with crass comments about other HMs and a lot of them are digs, but they're crafty enough it's easy enough to miss.

I only feel bad for Zelah, but only because, he really doesn't deserve to be the butt of a joke. That said, if she didn't want her morality put on the table like that to be crucified by most of the house, she should've been more tactful. She was only sorry because she knew that there was no way after seeing the blow back that that wasn't going to get way out of hand, so she backtracked.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Ray.

Felt more sorry for Caroline than Zelah tbh. Being made to feel emotionally distressed over wrong think

A woman calls a woman a woman and is made to feel like a pariah is disgusting and dehumanising by a pack of self righteous goons desperate to appear as warriors of the zeitgeist

I despair for society I really do

[Mystic Mock]

I agree with you personally.

The episode needs to be more like the first half of the episode as it felt more like proper BB.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

A woman calls a woman a woman and is made to feel like a pariah is disgusting and dehumanising by a pack of self righteous goons desperate to appear as warriors of the zeitgeist

I despair for society I really do

You despair for society because people are expected to respect others? Come on.

No one’s being dehumanised for saying the word woman. They’re being challenged when they use it to exclude or belittle others. That’s not persecution. That’s accountability.

What’s actually disgusting is pretending your discomfort with progress makes you a victim. Society’s moving forward. You can either keep up or keep moaning about it online.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

A woman calls a woman a woman and is made to feel like a pariah is disgusting and dehumanising by a pack of self righteous goons desperate to appear as warriors of the zeitgeist

I despair for society I really do

Zelah obviously knows that they're still biologically a woman. Was that reminder really necessary?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

No one is forcing you to watch.

That's not the best defense against constructive criticism imo.

It's meant to be Big Brother, not Zelah's Trans Story.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by bots

to think that warnings used to be issued for actual fights or spitting etc .... the producers are basically saying BB is now a fairy tale world, not based on lifes reality at all

Exactly!

Housemates from either the Channel 4 or Channel 5 series wouldn't last 2 minutes now without facing a warning.

We're basically watching a CITV version of Big Brother, it's sad to think what ITV has done to one of my favourite childhood Shows.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

That's not the best defense against constructive criticism imo.

It's meant to be Big Brother, not Zelah's Trans Story.

As usual

Bang on right Mock

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

That's not the best defense against constructive criticism imo.

It's meant to be Big Brother, not Zelah's Trans Story.

Big Brother has always been a social experiment. All walks of life.

No one is obligated to watch it. If it’s not providing you any enjoyment surely the most obvious answer is to not watch it?

I haven’t watched this series and thought “this is Zelahs trans story”

It’s because tonight was very heavy and showed the real lives of many many trans people. The reactions from the people who will never have their lives impacted at all by a trans person are the loudest of course.

Shows like Big Brother are important.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Maru

Zelah obviously knows that they're still biologically a woman. Was that reminder really necessary?

If she knows why is she
Making a fellow woman feel like **** for confirming reality?

Traitor

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

You despair for society because people are expected to respect others? Come on.

No one’s being dehumanised for saying the word woman. They’re being challenged when they use it to exclude or belittle others. That’s not persecution. That’s accountability.

What’s actually disgusting is pretending your discomfort with progress makes you a victim. Society’s moving forward. You can either keep up or keep moaning about it online.

Fair enough on your other points.

But I really wouldn't say that society is even moving forward, unless a Dystopian future is your version of paradise.

And yes, I'm going off-topic a little bit towards the end, my apologies.