[Withano]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

, my argument is more about the REAL motive of the Authorities for arresting him, and that was to silence him.

It's just so convenient that he was committing contempt of court at the exact same time as his arrest. We see right through you, authorities! Waiting to arrest him until he broke the law! Who you tryna fool. We know this has nothing to do with the law really! Am I right Kirk.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Withano

It's just so convenient that he was committing contempt of court at the exact same time as his arrest. We see right through you, authorities! Waiting to arrest him until he broke the law! Who you tryna fool. We know this has nothing to do with the law really! Am I right Kirk.

I am a bit confused, Withano about what you mean.

What I am saying is that; Did what Robinson was actually doing constitute a 'Breach of The Peace'?

If so, how did it?

Was he violently shouting? Vocally inciting others to violent acts? Causing an affray? Disrupting pedestrians/motorists? Forcibly preventing others from going about their legitimate business?

What I am saying, is that in my opinion, the charge against Robinson was a convenience - one which removed him from THAT particular location and stopped him filming and broadcasting THOSE particular events.

What I am further saying - in my opinion - is that his arrest is part of the Authorities policy of suppressing any news of these trials because of P.C. pressure.

You know, Withano - the very same Authorities who TOLERATED a stream of repeated UNLAWFUL acts by Islamic Extremist 'Hate Preachers' from Anjem Choudary to Abu Hamza - for the LONGEST time.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I am a bit confused, Withano about what you mean.

What I am saying is that; Did what Robinson was actually doing constitute a 'Breach of The Peace'?

If so, how did it?

Was he violently shouting? Vocally inciting others to violent acts? Causing an affray? Disrupting pedestrians/motorists? Forcibly preventing others from going about their legitimate business?

What I am saying, is that in my opinion, the charge against Robinson was a convenience - one which removed him from THAT particular location and stopped him filming and broadcasting THOSE particular events.

What I am further saying - in my opinion - is that his arrest is part of the Authorities policy of suppressing any news of these trials because of P.C. pressure.

You know, Withano - the very same Authorities who TOLERATED a stream of repeated UNLAWFUL acts by Islamic Extremist 'Hate Preachers' from Anjem Choudary to Abu Hamza - for the LONGEST time.

Well, if the livestream wasn't suspiciously deleted, you could have seen for yourself.
It was, in every way imaginable, contempt of court. 'Breaching the peace' is a bit meaningless to me, but I suppose if hundreds of people came to the court as a result of his livestream, then sure.
If you break the law, Kirk, this is what happens. It isn't exclusive to Tommy Robinson.
I don't think this has much to do with political correctness, unless you're willing to state that the majority of the country want some chavvy criminal vigilante and an angry mob dealing with sensitive issues. People not wanting him around is just popular opinion, not 'PC gone mad'

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Withano

Well, if the livestream wasn't suspiciously deleted, you could have seen for yourself.
It was, in every way imaginable, contempt of court. 'Breaching the peace' is a bit meaningless to me, but I suppose if hundreds of people came to the court as a result of his livestream, then sure.
If you break the law, Kirk, this is what happens. It isn't exclusive to Tommy Robinson.
I don't think this has much to do with political correctness, unless you're willing to state that the majority of the country want some chavvy criminal vigilante and an angry mob dealing with sensitive issues. People not wanting him around is just popular opinion, not 'PC gone mad'

I'm impressed that you can come to a 'contempt of court' conclusion from the information available. I couldn't do that and I've been working in the law for years...

Next time some hate preachers are burning poppies on Remembrance Sunday let's hope the police deem that worthy of a breach of the peace. Because it's inconsistencies like that that make people angry.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Livia

I'm impressed that you can come to a 'contempt of court' conclusion from the information available. I couldn't do that and I've been working in the law for years...

Next time some hate preachers are burning poppies on Remembrance Sunday let's hope the police deem that worthy of a breach of the peace. Because it's inconsistencies like that that make people angry.

The livestream wasn't removed until Saturday night. I'm sure you can find it online still if you look hard enough.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Withano

The livestream wasn't removed until Saturday night. I'm sure you can find it online still if you look hard enough.

Deft footwork there, Withano the way you swerved answering Livia's points.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Deft footwork there, Withano the way you swerved answering Livia's points.

Her first paragraph was a sarcy comment which doesn't hold up too well with my response. I agree with her second paragraph. Let's not try to score weird points Kirk. This isn't a game.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Withano

The livestream wasn't removed until Saturday night. I'm sure you can find it online still if you look hard enough.

And then I can make a solid legal judgement of contempt of court? From a livestream?

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Livia

And then I can make a solid legal judgement of contempt of court? From a livestream?

Give it a go.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Withano

Well, if the livestream wasn't suspiciously deleted, you could have seen for yourself.
It was, in every way imaginable, contempt of court. 'Breaching the peace' is a bit meaningless to me, but I suppose if hundreds of people came to the court as a result of his livestream, then sure.
If you break the law, Kirk, this is what happens. It isn't exclusive to Tommy Robinson.
I don't think this has much to do with political correctness, unless you're willing to state that the majority of the country want some chavvy criminal vigilante and an angry mob dealing with sensitive issues. People not wanting him around is just popular opinion, not 'PC gone mad'

Is this the same 'law' that Choudary and Hamza and others repeatedly BROKE for years without recrimination - You mean THAT law?