[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Maru

Investigators openly suggesting that they are acting to stop any candidate is terrible, whoever it helps. If it was some random employee, then I think very easy to discount.. but this is someone theoretically who gets to decide whether a case is opened or closed... hopefully they at least canned him.

For some more context on Strouk, he was pretty much anti all of the candidates. He ridiculed both Bernie and Hilary at different times. The investigation had already been opened on Trump, so no, Strouck had zero say in anything trump related and had no ability to unilaterally do anything to adversely affect Trump.

He was writing private text messages, not the FBI manifesto. I'm sure we've all written things such as "I'll kill him" or "I hate her", and this is the exact same thing.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

For some more context on Strouk, he was pretty much anti all of the candidates. He ridiculed both Bernie and Hilary at different times. The investigation had already been opened on Trump, so no, Strouck had zero say in anything trump related and had no ability to unilaterally do anything to adversely affect Trump.

He was writing private text messages, not the FBI manifesto. I'm sure we've all written things such as "I'll kill him" or "I hate her", and this is the exact same thing.

Re-read my post. I don't think his behavior is correct for any investigation, regardless of what case(s) he managed.

If someone responsible for an investigation that goes into the investigator against one of my own family members maybe.. and they are caught saying in private, they want to fry 'em, etc.. I'd want them canned, as that's not the right temperament for an investigator.

Originally Posted by Alf

I'm hearing reports that Manafort has been jailed.

Yeah I saw that on CNN's site earlier. I read his charging document and he has some fairly serious against him, so I guess he is a bit desperate

[lime]

Originally Posted by Maru

Re-read my post. I don't think his behavior is correct for any investigation, regardless of what case(s) he managed.

If someone responsible for an investigation that goes into the investigator against one of my own family members maybe.. and they are caught saying in private, they want to fry 'em, etc.. I'd want them canned, as that's not the right temperament for an investigator.



Yeah I saw that on CNN's site earlier. I read his charging document and he has some fairly serious against him, so I guess he is a bit desperate

Ah come on Maru...I know you are better than this....the dog's on the street know that those txt where between two adults who were both cheating on their spoues...hecne why they used their work phones....what thy msm eachother was something that many globally would have said about Clinton or Trump.......


Forgive me for my Englush Maru but I find it very interesting that when Trump and his clan are called out for the corrupt bully /conmen/woman that they are you say like a sheak little lamb....I seen it on CNN...I maybe wrong but I do get a feeling you are going to find everyhing he and his clan iss found guilty of is fake news..

The indoctratoin is bizzare to watch

[Maru]

Originally Posted by lime

Ah come on Maru...I know you are better than this....the dog's on the street know that those txt where between two adults who were both cheating on their spoues...hecne why they used their work phones....what thy msm eachother was something that many globally would have said about Clinton or Trump.......


Forgive me for my Englush Maru but I find it very interesting that when Trump and his clan are called out for the corrupt bully /conmen/woman that they are you say like a sheak little lamb....I seen it on CNN...I maybe wrong but I do get a feeling you are going to find everyhing he and his clan iss found guilty of is fake news..

The indoctratoin is bizzare to watch

I really don't think people are reading my posts. I kind of posted the OP as an experiment, admittedly. I had that super gut feeling that as soon as I posted a favorable to Trump WP-sourced article, I would get this kind of reaction. I'm like, this is going to probably be annoying for me later on to have to reply to... but man, did I win that bet.

Tbf, it's not really anyone's business who someone does or doesn't support as a candidate (imo). All our opinions are qualified, regardless of which position we take politically. I'm not suggesting the FBI is solely pro-(?)Trump. I think they are incompetent and easily corruptable. I would be just as concerned if Trump replaced the top folk there with his folk and we ended up on the other side of the pendulum...

Anyway, I'm not going to go into my political affiliations or who exactly I voted for, honestly, as it's pretty obvious what certain posts will generate as a reaction... so I'll just leave those concerned with the challenge of searching my post history, as I've already covered all that in my prior postings.

[lime]

Originally Posted by Maru

I really don't think people are reading my posts. I kind of posted the OP as an experiment, admittedly. I had that super gut feeling that as soon as I posted a favorable to Trump WP-sourced article, I would get this kind of reaction. I'm like, this is going to probably be annoying for me later on to have to reply to... but man, did I win that bet.

Tbf, it's not really anyone's business who someone does or doesn't support as a candidate (imo). All our opinions are qualified, regardless of which position we take politically. I'm not suggesting the FBI is solely pro-(?)Trump. I think they are incompetent and easily corruptable. I would be just as concerned if Trump replaced the top folk there with his folk and we ended up on the other side of the pendulum...

Anyway, I'm not going to go into my political affiliations or who exactly I voted for, honestly, as it's pretty obvious what certain posts will generate as a reaction... so I'll just leave those concerned with the challenge of searching my post history, as I've already covered all that in my prior postings.

No Maru .y.ou don't get away it away with that easy...you already put your trump affiliations on the line...now put your big girl pants on and sup it up...very telling that the the trump faily have being exposed as the conmen/women that they are ...but you don't want to tlk about .....some random **** that expooses hm and his clan for what they are....Let's be clear I never asked you who you voted for in fact I don't care..I feel you are being very deceiful right now pretenting and actually if all you could take away from the scanal involvig the Trump family yesterday ..you took some random txt msgs to mean it was anti Trmp...YOU started this thread....you do exaclty what He does.......shout loud and when called out Fake news and his followers will believe

Indoctoration in the modren day west again is facinating to watch.....but if I was foolish enouh to follow hs agenda it would be Canada /Europe really biggly bad...N Korea/Rusia bigly good

[Maru]

Originally Posted by lime

No Maru .y.ou don't get away it away with that easy...you already put your trump affiliations on the line...now put your big girl pants on and sup it up...very telling that the the trump faily have being exposed as the conmen/women that they are ...but you don't want to tlk about .....some random **** that expooses hm and his clan for what they are....Let's be clear I never asked you who you voted for in fact I don't care..I feel you are being very deceiful right now pretenting and actually if all you could take away from the scanal involvig the Trump family yesterday ..you took some random txt msgs to mean it was anti Trmp...YOU started this thread....you do exaclty what He does.......shout loud and when called out Fake news and his followers will believe

Indoctoration in the modren day west again is facinating to watch.....but if I was foolish enouh to follow hs agenda it would be Canada /Europe really biggly bad...N Korea/Rusia bigly good

I don't know how we are connecting these accusations with my posts? I haven't defended Trump?? There's a few policy positions I agree with him on, sure, but that has nothing to do with the investigations or the FBI? This is really off topic.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by lime

No Maru .y.ou don't get away it away with that easy...you already put your trump affiliations on the line...now put your big girl pants on and sup it up...very telling that the the trump faily have being exposed as the conmen/women that they are ...but you don't want to tlk about .....some random **** that expooses hm and his clan for what they are....Let's be clear I never asked you who you voted for in fact I don't care..I feel you are being very deceiful right now pretenting and actually if all you could take away from the scanal involvig the Trump family yesterday ..you took some random txt msgs to mean it was anti Trmp...YOU started this thread....you do exaclty what He does.......shout loud and when called out Fake news and his followers will believe

Indoctoration in the modren day west again is facinating to watch.....but if I was foolish enouh to follow hs agenda it would be Canada /Europe really biggly bad...N Korea/Rusia bigly good

It certainly is, you have the same narrative as the media, Hollywood and academia.

[lime]

Originally Posted by Alf

It certainly is, you have the same narrative as the media, Hollywood and academia.

Be guite lad..noting I have said is in support of the media..nor child abusers...Hollywood....but you will stand for Trump and his ilk boasting about how they love miors....your (hero ) is going sown now lad

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

It certainly is, you have the same narrative as the media, Hollywood and academia.

Do you have any actual opinions of your own, or are you just parroting fox? As if some dude in the north of England is concerned with "hollywood elites" and the so-called liberal media unless you've been reading it from right wing American sites. C'mon dude...

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by lime

Ah come on Maru...I know you are better than this....the dog's on the street know that those txt where between two adults who were both cheating on their spoues...hecne why they used their work phones....what thy msm eachother was something that many globally would have said about Clinton or Trump.......


Forgive me for my Englush Maru but I find it very interesting that when Trump and his clan are called out for the corrupt bully /conmen/woman that they are you say like a sheak little lamb....I seen it on CNN...I maybe wrong but I do get a feeling you are going to find everyhing he and his clan iss found guilty of is fake news..

The indoctratoin is bizzare to watch

You are certainly interpreting Maru's posts in a completely different way to me.

I do not believe that posters come any fairer or with more objectivity and integrity.

The mere sight of the word; 'Trump' seems to cause some people to lose all objectivity and rationality - in my opinion.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

You are certainly interpreting Maru's posts in a completely different way to me.

I do not believe that posters come any fairer or with more objectivity and integrity.

The mere sight of the word; 'Trump' seems to cause some people to lose all objectivity and rationality - in my opinion.

Sadly, I withhold posting threads all the time when I suspect it will generate ad hominems (and I'm usually right)... not just Trump posts, but just about any topic I suspect will create some kind of stink. People will skim or read the topic(s) without graspfing fully (edit) or reviewing people's positions, but mention the poster instead, so then it's clear after several responses that they haven't even done the reading. I really don't have the time to sit and invest in replying to each post in that category... so I just don't post those articles.

A lot of people call me "fair", but I think it's more I "curate" my threads and keep my posts fairly concise and know when I need to flesh my thoughts out... and so it's harder for anyone to pigeon hole me into one particular box.

This is also why I really am opposed to people using political affiliations to throw conversations off track... like yes, duh we're all biased There's nothing new there... we're all swayed by emotion and particular topics, that's why we have to jury selection...

[lime]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

You are certainly interpreting Maru's posts in a completely different way to me.

I do not believe that posters come any fairer or with more objectivity and integrity.

The mere sight of the word; 'Trump' seems to cause some people to lose all objectivity and rationality - in my opinion.

I think that's unfair of you Kirk to judge me as misintterting MARU'S Post's...Maru posted abot how she used to respect the FBI (bearing in mind many of these men/women put their lives on the line for the country)....I've done it and so has many of my family and friends but the indoctration has gone bad in the US nouw you can only respect them If they agree with you own agenda...That is now Trump supporters opinions

[Maru]

Originally Posted by lime

I think that's unfair of you Kirk to judge me as misintterting MARU'S Post's...Maru posted abot how she used to respect the FBI (bearing in mind many of these men/women put their lives on the line for the country)....I've done it and so has many of my family and friends but the indoctration has gone bad in the US nouw you can only respect them If they agree with you own agenda...That is now Trump supporters opinions

Lime, I guess I will just add, there have been multiple muck ups by the FBI in the past year that have influenced my harsh opinion. Several of those being major muck ups where there had been numerous reports of domestic terrorism, for instance, solid reports of shootings that were about to occur. Nothing was done. Look up as well, the FBI had mucked up the NICS entries for firearm background checks... flubs like that are quite large

While there have been a lot of ball drops like this, when it comes to things of a political nature, they're "on the ball" so to speak, publicly and officially on the record. I'm very frustrated with this inconsistency as a citizen, because yes--while I think both these investigations should continue until their conclusion, I'm not so keen on the things I've seen in the past year that they can be done competently. That's my opinion.

So over the past year, after seeing the chain of failures and how Comey has behaved in the media, how he has conducted his investigations, I'm starting to think the FBI is more politically motivated than it should be. At best if it's not leaning dramatically in any direction, as much as the FBI feels they must put a thumb on the scale at all times... if that clears anything up.

[Maru]

Anyway, from the article... read carefully the following:

The Justice Department inspector general on Thursday castigated former FBI director James B. Comey for his actions during the Hillary Clinton email investigation and found that other senior bureau officials showed a “willingness to take official action” to prevent Donald Trump from becoming president.

Horowitz also concluded that there was no evidence that political bias infected Comey’s thinking, even as he criticized individual steps Comey took. The report, for example, called Comey’s July 2016 public recommendation that Clinton not be charged an “extraordinary and insubordinate” move, because Comey did not even tell then-Attorney General Loretta E. Lynch what he was about to do. But it added, “We found no evidence that Comey’s statement was the result of bias or an effort to influence the election.”

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Maru

Re-read my post. I don't think his behavior is correct for any investigation, regardless of what case(s) he managed.

If someone responsible for an investigation that goes into the investigator against one of my own family members maybe.. and they are caught saying in private, they want to fry 'em, etc.. I'd want them canned, as that's not the right temperament for an investigator.



Yeah I saw that on CNN's site earlier. I read his charging document and he has some fairly serious against him, so I guess he is a bit desperate

Yeah, and he was canned around a year ago as soon as Mueller found out. So other than the fact you are asking for something to be done that's already been done, I have no idea what else you're actually trying to say.