[Shaun]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Pride is not a primary school message. It's an adult message and has no place in a primary school

Until you're a child growing up knowing you're different in a way that other kids are bullying you for, and now ignorant parents are choosing to brush under the carpet, you really have no light to shed on the topic

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Chewcobo

Guess what? Having a kid doesn't
A) Make you smarter than everyone else
B) Give you the right to voice bigoted opinions
C) Make you the the most intelligent person in a room

People with kids always go "When you're a parent" popping out a sprog and raising it lets you see the world differently, sure, but it doesn't make you special.

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Spoken like a true person with no kids

I'm a parent and 100% agree with Chewy. No one gives you a manual or any magical powers....You just do your best to bring your kids up to be as well rounded, tolerant and accepting of others and you want people to be of them.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

ugh can we just agree that people who don’t want kids to know that the LGBT community exists are homophobic

That's not really fair now is it , i always see this homophobia argument and it's tiresome . I see pride parades as being something for for older people and adults .

Maybe these parent's just don't want their kids to be apart of this type of thing YET , it doesn't mean they're prejudice gosh !.

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by glibberglobber

Or not..

Maybe they are just firm Christian believers who think that its wrong.

Homphobia would be homophobic acts.. Not believing in your religion

yeah but that’s just extreme Christians nowadays, and might i add, this is most likely the older generation that are more likely to have this view, as opposed to parents of primary school children

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

The picture used previously in the OP was picked by LT and not representative of the school's intended event.

Thanks Amy. I still feel that it’s a decision for the parents to make not the teachers though.

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

That's not really fair now is it , i always see this homophobia argument and it's tiresome . I see pride parades as being something for for older people and adults .

Maybe these parent's just don't want their kids to be apart of this type of thing YET , it doesn't mean they're prejudice gosh !.

No, it just means they're too immature to explain real world issues to their children and want to pass the buck.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

You can't parents what to do , especially if it's younger kids .

I know people disagree with this but i will always see pride parades for adults .

Them being parents is irrelevant. If you want to protest a group of children being proud of themselves, you are a ****.

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

That's not really fair now is it , i always see this homophobia argument and it's tiresome . I see pride parades as being something for for older people and adults .

Maybe these parent's just don't want their kids to be apart of this type of thing YET , it doesn't mean they're prejudice gosh !.

but it’s a fact of life that the LGBT community exists and we should embrace that surely?

[glibberglobber]

Originally Posted by Shaun

No, it just means they're too immature to explain real world issues to their children and want to pass the buck.

But there are more important issues for parents to pass on..

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by glibberglobber

But there are more important issues for parents to pass on..

but if they do not, then their kids are more likely to grow up thinking that it is something to use as an insult

[Amy Jade]

I don't really get the argument that an event is unwelcome but 'lessons' in LGBT and pride would be fine.

Isn't that just laziness?

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Shaun

No, it just means they're too immature to explain real world issues to their children and want to pass the buck.

I think you're making assumptions ok they'll be some that might not talk about it , but how do you know these parent's haven't talked about the LGBT community with their kids? , and nowadays parent's probably don't feel the need to explain as everything is plastered on TV these days . Even Youtube has videos about it .

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

Them being parents is irrelevant. If you want to protest a group of children being proud of themselves, you are a ****.

Play on the emotive line all you like but there are plenty of people protesting about everything these days - so don’t try to moralise when parents want to protect their children from such issues at such a young age. Secondary school should be fine - they are still only eleven. You are the ****.

[Josy]

Stop with the insults in this thread

[glibberglobber]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

but if they do not, then their kids are more likely to grow up thinking that it is something to use as an insult

And racism still exists. Something you cannot CHANGE.

You cannot change your skin colour. You cannot change which country you are from. You can change being LGBT though.

There is probably more racism than homophobia. Thisis why this should cone first

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by glibberglobber

But there are more important issues for parents to pass on..

But if an event like this stopped one child from developing feelings of confusion, self loathing and thinking they are abnormal then surely th at is a massive plus? A friend of mine has a daughter who is 9 and thinks she is a boy, she is currently being assessed by the CAMHS as she has already self harmed due to confusion. Had she been exposed to the LBGT community she may have not resorted to that. Her parents have a big responsibility in this too not just schools but I believe in today's society, kids should be exposed to everything possible to help them grow

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Play on the emotive line all you like but there are plenty of people protesting about everything these days - so don’t try to moralise when parents want to protect their children from such issues at such a young age. Secondary school should be fine - they are still only eleven. You are the ****.

If they want to protect your child from feeling pride(?), they are the *****...

You can feel pride at any age... or you should anyway, bit difficult with parents like that about.

[Tom4784]

I have a massive issue with people saying that the LGBT isn't age appropriate because they insist it's only about sex. It's about more than that and if somebody doesn't think it's appopriate for children then what do they have to say about most Disney fairy tales which are based around true love and hetero relationships? Are they not appropriate for children or are you pushing the image that homosexuality or bisexuality is somehow 'dirtier' or 'inappropriate' for children? Love between two people can be as pure as any heterosexual relationship.

Plus there are kids that are raised in LGBT families, there are kids that are LGBT themselves. It's important to normalise these things because that's how you stamp out homophobia. It's learned behaviour and it's sad that these homophobes have probably sent a very negative message not only to the school but to their own children. Just imagine if any of those people's children are gay but too scared to come out/or are confused and they had to watch their parents plan a protest against pride. Such a damaging situation for the child.

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by glibberglobber

And racism still exists. Something you cannot CHANGE.

You cannot change your skin colour. You cannot change which country you are from. You can change being LGBT though.

There is probably more racism than homophobia. Thisis why this should cone first

erm people do not choose to be LGBT!

[Withano]

Originally Posted by glibberglobber

And racism still exists. Something you cannot CHANGE.

You cannot change your skin colour. You cannot change which country you are from. You can change being LGBT though.

There is probably more racism than homophobia. Thisis why this should cone first

jfc

[glibberglobber]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

erm people do not choose to be LGBT!

But they do... If I liked the same gender I would CHOOSE to become L(G)BT...

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Play on the emotive line all you like but there are plenty of people protesting about everything these days - so don’t try to moralise when parents want to protect their children from such issues at such a young age. Secondary school should be fine - they are still only eleven. You are the ****.

But what do they need protecting from? Do you think they need protecting from the fact that two men can be in a loving relationship, rather than a man or a woman? Love is love and a beautiful emotion, nothing dangerous or sinister and we shouldn't have to protect our children from that

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by glibberglobber

But they do... If I liked the same gender I would CHOOSE to become L(G)BT...

no. you are born lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender.

you don’t wake up one morning and decide that you quite like the idea of being one and decide from there on out, you will be one.

[RileyH]

Originally Posted by glibberglobber

You can change being LGBT though.

sis

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

The picture used previously in the OP was picked by LT and not representative of the school's intended event.

Why did you do that LT?