[Withano]

Originally Posted by glibberglobber

But they do... If I liked the same gender I would CHOOSE to become L(G)BT...

Did you actively make a choice to not like the same gender?

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by glibberglobber

But they do... If I liked the same gender I would CHOOSE to become L(G)BT...

Suppose it depends which way you look at it , not everyone from that community are interested in parades and pride month so i can understand that side of it .

Also not everyone is open about their sexuality and they don't like labels which is what these parades seem to go on about , maybe some people don't want to be defined by their sexual preference .

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by glibberglobber

But they do... If I liked the same gender I would CHOOSE to become L(G)BT...

Jesus wept!
You embarrass yourself showing such ignorance

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

If they want to protect your child from feeling pride(?), they are the *****...

You can feel pride at any age... or you should anyway, bit difficult with parents like that about.

It is not your decision so stop trying to make it so.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Withano

Did you actively make a choice to not like the same gender?

I don't think that's what globber meant

[glibberglobber]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

no. you are born lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender.

you don’t wake up one morning and decide that you quite like the idea of being one and decide from there on out, you will be one.

And if a boy went out with a girl and said 'sorry.. I cannot do this anymore. I'm gay' and dumped her (and got with another boy) what would you call that?

I personally know someone who went from Lesbian to Bisexual

You aren't born with a nametag saying 'im gay'

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by glibberglobber

But they do... If I liked the same gender I would CHOOSE to become L(G)BT...

Completely wrong.

You can't choose which gender you are attracted to. A straight person can't make themselves attracted to the same sex any more then a gay person can be attracted to the opposite.

Sexuality is not a choice, delusion is and by pretending that it is a choice you are pushing the idea that people she delude themselves into being something they are not and that's just sweeping the issue under the table.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

Is this really the level we’re at btw?

You started it and dictated the level. Or are only you allowed to sink to it now.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

It is not your decision so stop trying to make it so.

If you wasnt prepared to read a discussion on the topic, it would have been better to avoid it. Me discussing the topic isnt me trying to take control of a group of parents minds.

Its odd that you think i have that ability.

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by glibberglobber

And if a boy went out with a girl and said 'sorry.. I cannot do this anymore. I'm gay' and dumped her (and got with another boy) what would you call that?

I personally know someone who went from Lesbian to Bisexual

You aren't born with a nametag saying 'im gay'

i just want to make this point before this threads is inevitably locked.

in your scenario above, the boy had always been gay but just hadn’t realised or had tried to cover it up.

this is like courtney act explaining things to ann widdecombe

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by glibberglobber

And if a boy went out with a girl and said 'sorry.. I cannot do this anymore. I'm gay' and dumped her (and got with another boy) what would you call that?

I personally know someone who went from Lesbian to Bisexual

You aren't born with a nametag saying 'im gay'

I think it's more complex than that .

That example you used of a guy dating a girl and then dumping her , it DOES happen in real life and i think it's either confusion or again he's not a specific label of "GAY" and he might still fancy women .

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Withano

If you wasnt prepared to read a discussion on the topic, it would have been better to avoid it. Me discussing the topic isnt me trying to take control of a group of parents minds.

Its odd that you think i have that ability.

Trying does not equate to effectivity.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

You started it and dictated the level. Or are only you allowed to sink to it now.

I was directing that at the mods. No idea i could call you a **** and get away with it. Noted.

[glibberglobber]

This is why we should not have the LGBT section as mentioned in the suggestions part.

It would constantly be an aggressive war zone with confusion and contradiction.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by glibberglobber

And if a boy went out with a girl and said 'sorry.. I cannot do this anymore. I'm gay' and dumped her (and got with another boy) what would you call that?

I personally know someone who went from Lesbian to Bisexual

You aren't born with a nametag saying 'im gay'

I’ll be honest, you’ve got a bit of catching up to do.. people havent thought like you in about 30 years really.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by glibberglobber

This is why we should not have the LGBT section as mentioned in the suggestions part.

It would constantly be an aggressive war zone with confusion and contradiction.

Depends if you join the discussion id imagine.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Trying does not equate to effectivity.

Originally Posted by Withano

I was directing that at the mods. No idea i could call you a **** and get away with it. Noted.

Look you two either pack it in or leave thread, so sick of the same members ruining threads for others that are trying to have an actual discussion!

[AnnieK]

I disagree, it could be educational and topical but I fear the same arguments would still come up.

I'm still waiting to hear what horrors being aware of the Lgbt community we are saving our children from by keeping them wrapped in a cotton wool filled hetro world

[glibberglobber]

Originally Posted by Withano

Depends if you join the discussion id imagine.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I disagree, it could be educational and topical but I fear the same arguments would still come up.

I'm still waiting to hear what horrors being aware of the Lgbt community we are saving our children from by keeping them wrapped in a cotton wool filled hetro world

There is none beyond making bigoted parents feel uncomfortable, I imagine.

If a parent can't overcome their bigotry for the sake of their child then they aren't worthy of being a parent. The world is harsh enough for LGBT people without feeling like they can't be themselves around the people who should love them unconditionally.

[glibberglobber]

My point is people make their own choice of who they want to love lgbt or not, and they should not be forced

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

There is none beyond making bigoted parents feel uncomfortable, I imagine.

If a parent can't overcome their bigotry for the sake of their child then they aren't worthy of being a parent. The world is harsh enough for LGBT people without feeling like they can't be themselves around the people who should love them unconditionally.

It would literally be traumatic for the kids of the ‘protesting parents’ if they ended up being gay. What a horrible thought.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I disagree, it could be educational and topical but I fear the same arguments would still come up.

I'm still waiting to hear what horrors being aware of the Lgbt community we are saving our children from by keeping them wrapped in a cotton wool filled hetro world

Parent's don't like being told what to do regarding this issue.

They probably think their kids are too young , or they just don't want them to be apart of the parade.

There's people from the LGBT community that aren't interested in parades and pride month as such .

And chances are most of these kids already know about the community , like i said everything is on TV these days and they probably have family members and people they know who are gay .

[Withano]

Originally Posted by glibberglobber

My point is people make their own choice of who they want to love lgbt or not, and they should not be forced

How would you force anybody to love anybody, lgbt or not.

A ‘pride to be yourself’ march isnt going to turn the world into raging gays, no matter how much glitter. Thats not how love works.

[glibberglobber]

Nowhere did I claim (along the lines of) 'tomorrow ill be lesbian. Next week I'll be gay'

I purely stated that people have a choice of whether they want to be lgbt or not