[Redway]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

I'm a black Londoner and I can't see why we should cater to any culture thats homophobic,

You’re an exception in black London though and you know it.

I couldn’t have less of a problem with gay people myself but facts are facts as far as cultures and tolerance go.

This is going two steps further but would it be a good idea to showcase pride at a staunch Muslim school?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Just let young kids be kids imo.There’s plenty of time for them to find out about the complexities of adult relationships.Some kids ask questions younger than others and we should be honest with them when topics come up but some kids just don’t care until they’re abit older.No need to push stuff on them.I think in secondary school it’s fine.

Agree, let them keep their child innocence as long as possible

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Redway

You’re an exception in black London though and you know it.

I couldn’t have less of a problem with gay people but facts are facts as far as cultures and tolerance go.

This is two steps further but would it be a good idea to showcase pride at a staunch Muslim school?

ok but I'm still not getting why a bunch of homophobes should be aloud to dictate what is taught at our schools.

also muslim schools here are private schools so I can see why parents input would matter more.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

No one should get special treatment be they black, white, gay or straight,I thought people wanted to be treat as equals but it doesn't seem that way, they want to be pandered to as a special case ,You cannot demand in this life

It just proves what many have said for some time - some people from different cultures expect preferential treatment and that is not what multiculturalism is supposed to be about.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Redway

You’re an exception in black London though and you know it.

I couldn’t have less of a problem with gay people but facts are facts as far as cultures and tolerance go.

This is two steps further but would it be a good idea to showcase pride at a staunch Muslim school?

I thought this tbh.

Would there be a gay pride event in a Muslim primary school?

If not then why do it in a black primary school,Christian primary school or any other primary school?
Not very consistent

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

No I don’t. If black London has been exposed to these views for as long as everyone else they should be treated exactly the same as everyone else. White culture is pretty much a mixed bag with people having many different views on this - so why you think black culture has any more ‘right’ to express disagreement is ridiculous.

Some have been exposed, some haven’t. A school packed with Nigerian kids doesn’t need pride lectures and those parents would sooner go straight to Hell than sign their little kids up for something like that. Shocking as that night sound to a guy like you.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

It just proves what many have said for some time - some people from different cultures expect preferential treatment and that is not what multiculturalism is supposed to be about.

No on one is a special case ,no one should be treat as special

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Redway

Some have been exposed, some haven’t. A school packed with Nigerian kids doesn’t need pride lectures and those parents would sooner go straight to Hell than sign their little kids up for something like that. Shocking as that night sound to a guy like you.

I’m not a guy - and I would be no more happy about certain subjects being shoved down my 5 year olds throat than you say many a black parent would be. No special treatment for being black that’s all I am saying.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

I’m not a guy - and I would be no more happy about certain subjects being shoved down my 5 year olds throat than you say many a black parent would be. No special treatment for being black that’s all I am saying.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

No on one is a special case ,no one should be treat as special

I know we like to pretend we’re the same but that’s not true. You might want to step out of your idealistic bubble and visit Brixton for the day. Have a nice picnic there an all.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

ok but I'm still not getting why a bunch of homophobes should be aloud to dictate what is taught at our schools.

also muslim schools here are private schools so I can see why parents input would matter more.

"a bunch of homophobes"


wow

showing true colours here, you have no idea the reasons why parents objected but here you are calling ALL of them homophbes?


wow

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Redway

I know we like to pretend we’re the same but that’s not true. You might want to step out of your idealistic bubble and visit Brixton for the day. Have a nice picnic there an all.

Thanks for the invite, but I will decline it

[Redway]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Thanks for the invite, but I will decline it

That’s just it though innit.

Thanks for proving my point.

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

"a bunch of homophobes"


wow

showing true colours here, you have no idea the reasons why parents objected but here you are calling ALL of them homophbes?


wow

lmaoo I was speaking on Redway's theory that it was because of the homophobia in back london that so many parents were against it. nice try though

[LeatherTrumpet]

So to be clear Redway what is your point here:

that black London people hate gays a lot more than the indigenous white majority ?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

"a bunch of homophobes"


wow

showing true colours here, you have no idea the reasons why parents objected but here you are calling ALL of them homophbes?


wow

Did you expect anything less ?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Redway

That’s just it though innit.

Thanks for proving my point.

And your point was what ?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Redway

I know we like to pretend we’re the same but that’s not true. You might want to step out of your idealistic bubble and visit Brixton for the day. Have a nice picnic there an all.

It could be argued that if as you say black culture is more homophobic than white culture it should have MORE enforced exposure to such issues to bring it to the same level.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

And your point was what ?

South London’s rough as it gets. It’s a black majority school. The majority wouldn’t sign their kids not up to high school age for something they wouldn’t want for their kids at any age.

Like I say it’s not something that would be welcomed at a black school.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

It could be argued that if as you say black culture is more homophobic than white culture it should have MORE enforced exposure to such issues to bring it to the same level.

It would take a third world war and 3000 years of enforced exposure to bring some communities on a similar footing about things like this. You can’t force it on them.

All this would be irrelevant if it was a majority white school somewhere up north but we’re taking Croydon. Come on. You can sit there and question it but on a practical level be real about it.

[Josy]

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