[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

well done Sherlock that is exactly right

so you said it was for gay people only, you can’t say things like that

[Beso]

He donned a silver wig, high heels and make up to impersonate the black drag act rupaul and everyones cool with that......but i cant do the same for bob marley...now thats daft.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by parmnion

With make up, wig and clothes to imporsonate your favourite performer.

Like little johnathon did..im on your side.

If the makeup involves blackface then that makes it inherently wrong.

i don't think you can compare it to say, contouring your face to make it look more narrow or shapely.

people can dress up as black characters, they just need to leave the black facepaint alone.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

so you said it was for gay people only, you can’t say things like that

the sub forum yes, yes i can, there may be the odd non gay but then there is the odd gay in the footy forum as well like Shaun.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by parmnion

He donned a silver wig, high heels and make up to impersonate the black drag act rupaul and everyones cool with that......but i cant do the same for bob marley...now thats daft.

Where does it say he was impersonating Rupaul? Doesn't say that anywhere from what I can see.

But like it's been said to you a few times now, people can dress up as black characters, it's when they get out the black facepaint that things cross the line.

[Ammi]

...so what’s been said then...is that a drag queen act in a school talent show is fine and dandy so long as blackface is allowed as well...I mean that’s the only objection, that there has to be both...?...the concern appeared to be about inappropriate sexual content...but that concern wouldn’t be a thing so long as blackface/racist content is allowed...


...I’m really struggling to understand this completely...

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Where does it say he was impersonating Rupaul? Doesn't say that anywhere from what I can see.

But like it's been said to you a few times now, people can dress up as black characters, it's when they get out the black facepaint that things cross the line.

Im sure the same look can be achieved with make up...but that would be ok with you?..for gay johnny..to impersonate a black bloke with make up to make him look like this bloke, cause the blokes gay.

[ethanjames]

people do realise that drag isn't just drag race? just because drag race as a show is quite sexual (not in the way 14 year old boys cant handle but) doesn't mean drag inherently is. drag race though is a good resource is in no way a portraytion of drag so saying drag is just for gay people is ridiculous my best friend is a biological heterosexual woman and does drag. drag has no boundries mate and shouldn't be compared to an incredibly racist act which purpose is to mock people of colour

[ethanjames]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...so what’s been said then...is that a drag queen act in a school talent show is fine and dandy so long as blackface is allowed as well...I mean that’s the only objection, that there has to be both...?...the concern appeared to be about inappropriate sexual content...but that concern wouldn’t be a thing so long as blackface/racist content is allowed...


...I’m really struggling to understand this completely...

this entire thread is incredibly confusing

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...so what’s been said then...is that a drag queen act in a school talent show is fine and dandy so long as blackface is allowed as well...I mean that’s the only objection, that there has to be both...?...the concern appeared to be about inappropriate sexual content...but that concern wouldn’t be a thing so long as blackface/racist content is allowed...


...I’m really struggling to understand this completely...

For kids in school who seemingly dont judge people..which is backed up by half the contestants pulling out in solidarity..then using wigs, make up and clothing to impersonate someone who has inspired you should be allowed....like johnny did and i do.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

What's so inappropriate about a boy in a wig dancing around in an outfit that looks like something someone would wear to a job interview for Primark? It's not like he's running around wearing straps and humping the scenery.

By all accounts, the teachers and pupils were happy enough for him to perform. From what I can gather with this story it was the head, who after receiving a list of acts, that had the problem. The teachers didn't raise concerns but this head made a decision based on her own ignorance.

If the performance didn't raise concerns with anyone who supervised the rehearsals then that should say more as to the content of the performance than what is an incomplete view on drag itself. The bull**** excuses about it being illegal (completely false) are just ways for the head to try to justify her hypocrisy. She was uncomfortable with a drag act and so she canned his performance, that's more likely then her truly believing it would be illegal.

The fact she had the gall to say, in the same statement that the school was a welcoming place for all is a joke.

We have no idea what he was wearing or what he was going to sing or how he was going to perform it, unless you can provide video and photographic evidence then your opinion is as reachy as just about anyone elses on this forum, Drag Acts are generally in Clubs for over 18s, fgs teachers cant even show PG films in school, I am sure the kid will get over it

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by parmnion

For kids in school who seemingly dont judge people..which is backed up by half the contestants pulling out in solidarity..then using wigs, make up and clothing to impersonate someone who has inspired you should be allowed....like johnny did and i do.

...sorry who is Johnny, Parmy..and which contestants pulled out in solidarity against Lewis’ drag queen act...?...it was the head’s decision it wouldn’t go ahead and only his/her decision so far as I know...all of the rehearsals leading up to proved no objection to it from either other staff or other students..?...

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

We have no idea what he was wearing or what he was going to sing or how he was going to perform it, unless you can provide video and photographic evidence then your opinion is as reachy as just about anyone elses on this forum, Drag Acts are generally in Clubs for over 18s, fgs teachers cant even show PG films in school, I am sure the kid will get over it

His performance was a dance to a medley of tracks he mixed with his stepfather including songs by Little Mix, Ariana Grande and RuPaul.

He was planning to wear a floral co-ord top blazer and skirt from eBay, high heels his grandmother brought him, and a long silver wig.

It's in the OP hon

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Im sure the same look can be achieved with make up...but that would be ok with you?..for gay johnny..to impersonate a black bloke with make up to make him look like this bloke, cause the blokes gay.

You can keep repeating the same sentiment with a leading intent but you aren't going to get a different answer.

You are clinging on to a lie that this kid was dressed up as Rupaul and worst of all, you know it's a lie. You are spreading misinformation in order to falsely strengthen what is a flimsy point that you are trying to make.

This kid is not imitating Rupaul and contouring your face to change the shape of it can never be compared to blackface with a straight face.

I'm going to say this again in the hopes you don't ignore it for a third time.

Anyone can dress up as a black character, like how Miley Cyrus dressed up as Lil'Kim, the problem arises when they use blackface to do so.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

It's in the OP hon

Also you see him in full drag on the This Morning clip provided.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Cherie

We have no idea what he was wearing or what he was going to sing or how he was going to perform it, unless you can provide video and photographic evidence then your opinion is as reachy as just about anyone elses on this forum, Drag Acts are generally in Clubs for over 18s, fgs teachers cant even show PG films in school, I am sure the kid will get over it

...I can’t say I’ve ever known any talent contest or any type of production in any school ever without rehearsals and all staff and students involved knowing what the acts are, Cherie and having seen them all...it all has to be timed and scheduled...

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

It's in the OP hon

the operative words there are 'songs that included' do you have the full set list hun

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...I can’t say I’ve ever known any talent contest or any type of production in any school ever without rehearsals and all staff and students involved knowing what the acts are, Cherie and having seen them all...it all has to be timed and scheduled...

what has that got to do with anything Ammi? I never said they didn't know at the school, I said Dezzy didn't know, all we have is a quote from the parents....

[Beso]

This is old news fgs..the kid was on this morning..

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/r...-back-12977965


He impersonated rupaul dezzy..read it in black and white in the op...

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Also you see him in full drag on the This Morning clip provided.

He can dress anyway he likes on This Morning its not like he couldn't change his look

[Beso]

His performance was a dance to a medley of tracks he mixed with his stepfather including songs by Little Mix, Ariana Grande and RuPaul....


Rest assured, he dressed up as rupaul to lip sync his track.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Cherie

what has that got to do with anything Ammi? I never said they didn't know at the school, I said Dezzy didn't know, all we have is a quote from the parents....

..the article said it was a decision made by the head at the last minute when he received the acts that were happening...so all rehearsals, all content etc had, had no objections from other students, other staff involved or any parents that may have been aware of the drag act through their child...so in essence all involved through the rehearsal process had felt the act was appropriate and fine for the talent contest...

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

the operative words there are 'songs that included' do you have the full set list hun

Yeah I'm sure they failed to mention he would be dancing to Little Mix followed by deepthroat by Cupcakke

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

Yeah I'm sure they failed to mention he would be dancing to Little Mix followed by deepthroat by Cupcakke

omg

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Cherie

We have no idea what he was wearing or what he was going to sing or how he was going to perform it, unless you can provide video and photographic evidence then your opinion is as reachy as just about anyone elses on this forum, Drag Acts are generally in Clubs for over 18s, fgs teachers cant even show PG films in school, I am sure the kid will get over it

Jordan covered the 'what he was wearing' point well enough so I'm gonna tackle the last bit.

Drag is not just for clubs and adults, there's a thing called Drag Queen Story Time that's picking up steam in loads of places where drag queens read stories to kids plus you get shows that are suitable for all ages that take place at festivals and stuff too.

There's more than one side to drag. Sure you've got the club scene but you've also got the art and make up scene where queens will show off the pure artistry they can pull off with a makeup brush. the previously mentioned kid friendly stuff, cosplay and the geeky side of things etc. The drag scene is wide and all encompassing and there's something for everyone really. I think the view that it's all sexually focused and inappropriate is quite an old fashioned outlook on it.