[Withano]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

It depends how the contract is worded tbh. Thats what I meant by the how. Like, the contract may just say woman, but if it clarifies that whats meant by woman in this case is adult human female, not just anyone who identifies as a woman then yeah...and if it does not clarify that woman means adult human female, then possibly the contract is worth nothing anyway, as any woman can go get her hair done there and just say she identifies as a man for the day (not that this transman is doing that, but thats the loophole in it I guess).

Then what would need to happen is a court case to decide if 'woman' means anyone who identifies as a woman (which is a nonsense definition, especially from a legal perspective as 'identity' is subjective and anyone can say anything) or if a woman is an adult human female (including transwomen who have GRCs...as those with GRCs are legally the other sex for all intents and purposes)

Mind given the outcome of this, it seems the Irish courts decided that woman is 'anyone who identifies as' and vice versa. So the contract the barber has is officially meaningless anyway. Which is probably good news as it sounds a bit ridiculous anyway. I do wonder if the insurance thing is true though..like if you need different insurance/training or whatever to cut the hair of the opposite sex. I don't see why you would do, but as I said, I also don't see why our barbers would turn down custom based on nonsense reasons.

I hink youre overthinking it. The barber wouldnt have been fined by anybody for cutting the transmans hair. We know this because the contract would have been presented when the barber was fined for not cutting their hair.