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Old 29-07-2018, 06:40 PM #51
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The trans community is not that large that it would significantly increase his customer base and be worth a court case.

Not to mention if there were that many they'd have faced this "problem" head on long ago.
There are not only transmen who want short(or cheap) haircuts...thats rather stereotypical of you surely

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The trans community is not that large that it would significantly increase his customer base and be worth a court case.

Not to mention if there were that many they'd have faced this "problem" head on long ago.
You are not seeing the bigger picture, it's blurring the legal basis for his agreement with the other hair dresser, that's why it went to court. This is not about discrimination, it's about him wanting to cut anyones hair without restriction.
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Well yes, its a bit of an odd contract.

Hairdressers are not really separated by 'gender' anyway, but barbers are generally for blokes and blokes only, where hairdressers will do either sex.

I think its a bit of a disgrace the difference in price between the two mind. I have a friend with short hair who gets it done at the hairdressers and it costs her 15 quid, where the local barbers would do it for 6. She has asked in the barbers before actually and been told the barbers is only insured to cut mens hair...not sure how true that is BUT I don't see why the barbers would turn down custom and make up bollocks reasons.
Youtuber Magdalen Berns spoke in one of her videos about how she was refused by a barber, so had to go to a hairdressers. She didn't chimp out and take it to court.
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You are not seeing the bigger picture, it's blurring the legal basis for his agreement with the other hair dresser, that's why it went to court. This is not about discrimination, it's about him wanting to cut anyones hair without restriction.
No you're not seeing the bigger picture that there are easier and more valid grounds of doing so than creating a discrimination case and getting yourself fined a hell of a lot of money.
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You are not seeing the bigger picture, it's blurring the legal basis for his agreement with the other hair dresser, that's why it went to court. This is not about discrimination, it's about him wanting to cut anyones hair without restriction.
...which makes perfect sense considering he refused to cut the transmans hair even after the transman told him that he could. The genius-barber saw this exact turn of events coming, and now they can cut anybodys hair in the entire world.
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Put it this way I bet if she looked like Ruby Rose and had huge tiddies he would have no problem cutting a woman’s hair!
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There are not only transmen who want short(or cheap) haircuts...thats rather stereotypical of you surely
I never said they did?
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...which makes perfect sense considering he refused to cut the transmans hair even after the transman told him that he could. The genius-barber saw this exact turn of events coming, and now they can cut anybodys hair in the entire world.
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Put it this way I bet if she looked like Ruby Rose and had huge tiddies he would have no problem cutting a woman’s hair!
Yes, because he just hates women! That's the entire point of the story!
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He might have been buying anal beads or amyl nitrate..They might have told him how anti lgbt the others are.
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Oh, he was Irish..well, that explains everything....


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What even is, a transman outside of Tibb
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€5000 euros richer and a swanky new haircut
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The astonishing thing is that this lady went to court

what kind of piece of work is she?

vile

or transman although that cant be the right term?
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While I don't agree with using female pronouns for this individual, taking the situation to the courtroom is pretty vile.
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Barber had a contract that stated they could not cut the hair of females. The contract seems to be the issue, not the barbers. This is a female person, regardless of how they identify, and looking at the photo, again its clear they are a female.

If the barber gets fined for cutting the hair of females, but also gets fined for refusing to cut the hair of females, what are they to do? Just close?
This sounds pretty stupid and unfair if the barber is being fined and taken to court over something so ridiculous .

Is this person even fully trans yet ?? Sounds dumb & confusing Or are they just identifying as MALE at the moment , what exactly is the barber meant to say & do "oh okay seen as today you identify as male then I'll cut your hair despite you looking female and sounding female"

Doesn't sound like the barber was malicious ,if anything she's blowing it all out of proportion to ruin his business so basically showing a spiteful side when not getting her own way . And there's no sexism either when it's clearly in the contract that they don't do female hair.

And everyone knows barbers are for cutting men's hair that's just how it is and that's how it's always been . it's usually more basic than a hairdressers which do the full works ie hair dye ,blow dry ,wash , style etc .
Why didn't this person just shut up and go to a hairdressers instead of bitching over nothing and taking him to court ! Extreme much , anyone would think the person was refused from all hair salons etc .

I also feel like people like this go out of their way to be offended , this isn't even a Social justice warrier . It's worse than that ! . It's someone who's fishing for attention for her own agenda .

Maybe if she looked more like a convincing man and sounded like one then he probably would of served her . And it makes you wonder with the whole non binary rubbish , how many will try this kind of thing and then scream "discrimination" when they don't get their own way .
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