[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Cherie

If she went through normal eviction they would have to pay her and that doesnt seem right though, this isn’t some minor spat to be played out in tv, she is unwell , I would have loved to see how Emma handled the interview but on balance I think this is the right way, we have moved on from burning people at the stake

They're still going to pay her, she's done two weeks work and will rightly be receiving something. The point is everyone seemed to be desperate for 'back to basics' and were loving the natural drama and progression of the series, and now just cause they're obviously appalled at the way Roxanne has behaved, we're forgetting all that and reverting to type wanting external interference and influence? How fickle

Re. the bold, have we? You wouldn't think so reading some of the comments on here during every on season...

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Jack_

They're still going to pay her, she's done two weeks work and will rightly be receiving something. The point is everyone seemed to be desperate for 'back to basics' and were loving the natural drama and progression of the series, and now just cause they're obviously appalled at the way Roxanne has behaved, we're forgetting all that and reverting to type wanting external interference and influence? How fickle

Re. the bold, have we? You wouldn't think so reading some of the comments on here during every on season...

There is drama and then there is trying to ruin someones life by claiming physical assault, of course we will all be glued to it tonight, it will then move on to some hms having egg on their face when they find out the truth and the dynamics will shift again

[Beso]

Not a tear in sight.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Cherie

There is drama and then there is trying to ruin someones life by claiming physical assault, of course we will all be glued to it tonight, it will then move on to some hms having egg on their face when they find out the truth and the dynamics will shift again

But she hasn't ruined his life? She's ruined hers. In a weird and warped way, the fact all this has played out is a good thing. The producers dealt with it well, and did so cleverly in a way that gave her enough rope to do the rest. Not only has she exposed herself, but she's also opened the floodgates to allow people who've had prior experience with her to tell their story, almost like her own #MeToo. What's more is it's started a national (well, kind of) conversation about how these kinds of false accusations are real, and are really not okay. She will now have to face the music and realise that, and anyone else watching will see that too.

Ryan on the other hand hasn't had his life ruined, and when he emerges as the winner, a few days where he was castigated in the Big Brother house are going to be a long and distant memory. Meanwhile, the press attention will now be gone, the chance at her being held accountable will be gone, and dare I say it any chance at the contract being renewed will be gone. Who's the winner here?

This has played out on a much deeper level than it appears at face value. Unfortunately I don't think many people are capable of seeing the nuances.

[Elliot]

Originally Posted by Jack_

But she hasn't ruined his life? She's ruined hers. In a weird and warped way, the fact all this has played out is a good thing. The producers dealt with it well, and did so cleverly in a way that gave her enough rope to do the rest. Not only has she exposed herself, but she's also opened the floodgates to allow people who've had prior experience with her to tell their story, almost like her own #MeToo. What's more is it's started a national (well, kind of) conversation about how these kinds of false accusations are real, and are really not okay. She will now have to face the music and realise that, and anyone else watching will see that too.

Ryan on the other hand hasn't had his life ruined, and when he emerges as the winner, a few days where he was castigated in the Big Brother house are going to be a long and distant memory. Meanwhile, the press attention will now be gone, the chance at her being held accountable will be gone, and dare I say it any chance at the contract being renewed will be gone. Who's the winner here?

This has played out on a much deeper level than it appears at face value. Unfortunately I don't think many people are capable of seeing the nuances.

Yeah he’ll come out as the winner after week of sitting in a box thinking the world and the house sees you as a woman beater fun

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Elliot

Yeah he’ll come out as the winner after week of sitting in a box thinking the world and the house sees you as a woman beater fun

They made up last night regardless if you honestly think he's going to give a **** when he wins the show and sees how much support he's had, how much work he's going to get, and can consider whether he wants to sue for damages, you're kidding yourself seriously

[Elliot]

Originally Posted by Jack_

They made up last night regardless if you honestly think he's going to give a **** when he wins the show and sees how much support he's had, how much work he's going to get, and can consider whether he wants to sue for damages, you're kidding yourself seriously

It’s not about what he’ll feel when he wins, it’s about what he’ll feel leading up to that

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Jack_

But she hasn't ruined his life? She's ruined hers. In a weird and warped way, the fact all this has played out is a good thing. The producers dealt with it well, and did so cleverly in a way that gave her enough rope to do the rest. Not only has she exposed herself, but she's also opened the floodgates to allow people who've had prior experience with her to tell their story, almost like her own #MeToo. What's more is it's started a national (well, kind of) conversation about how these kinds of false accusations are real, and are really not okay. She will now have to face the music and realise that, and anyone else watching will see that too.

Ryan on the other hand hasn't had his life ruined, and when he emerges as the winner, a few days where he was castigated in the Big Brother house are going to be a long and distant memory. Meanwhile, the press attention will now be gone, the chance at her being held accountable will be gone, and dare I say it any chance at the contract being renewed will be gone. Who's the winner here?

This has played out on a much deeper level than it appears at face value. Unfortunately I don't think many people are capable of seeing the nuances.

On the contrary, BB have a duty of care to Ryan, Ben already said he had isolated himself from the group for 24 hours, then the footage tonight shows some Hms believing Roxanne, they have to take his mental health into account as well, I think its played out well and reached its conclusion at the right time for all involved

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Elliot

It’s not about what he’ll feel when he wins, it’s about what he’ll feel leading up to that

He knows what he signed up for, the Big Brother house isn't always the nicest place in the world, plenty of housemates have been treated worse than him and lived to tell the tale, he hasn't even been outcasted, they'd already made up, and again, in a matter of months this will all be a very distant memory

[TiBB Frontpage Article]

James has posted a new TiBB frontpage article.

Preview video of tonight's (01-09-18) highlights show to be shown at 10PM on Channel 5. The housemates have a lot of unanswered questions about what happened with Roxanne and Ryan, and Ben leaves in a twist eviction which leaves the group in shock.

Youtube video

Roxanne decided to leave the house today. See.....

Excerpt of article quoted above. Read full article here - http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/cbb2...d-roxanne.html

[Robertocarlo]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Fantastic...and Sally putting the knife in that broke the camels back..

Yes, I loved that bit.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Cherie

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On the contrary, BB have a duty of care to Ryan, Ben already said he had isolated himself from the group for 24 hours, then the footage tonight shows some Hms believing Roxanne, they have to take his mental health into account as well, I think its played out well and reached its conclusion at the right time for all involved

It's not on the contrary at all. We also saw that Roxanne and Ryan had made amends, so where's all this isolating coming from? They do have a duty of care towards him, and I'm confident they would have made sure he was alright - what's more is she would've been evicted on Monday, trauma over

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Jack_

It's not on the contrary at all. We also saw that Roxanne and Ryan had made amends, so where's all this isolating coming from? They do have a duty of care towards him, and I'm confident they would have made sure he was alright - what's more is she would've been evicted on Monday, trauma over

He hasn't seen what she's said or called him yet, Im sure he wouldn't have made up with her if he had

[Gusto Brunt]

Well done, Sally. If there had been any violence there wouldn't be a warning, he'd be out.

Also, everyone was there when he did it.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Jack_

It's not on the contrary at all. We also saw that Roxanne and Ryan had made amends, so where's all this isolating coming from? They do have a duty of care towards him, and I'm confident they would have made sure he was alright - what's more is she would've been evicted on Monday, trauma over

He apparently isolated himself after the warning, I am going on what Ben said.? ....and as for making up....he apologised to her...there was no making up on her part, that can’t have sat well with him

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

He hasn't seen what she's said or called him yet, Im sure he wouldn't have made up with her if he had

Correct! Which is what makes this "poor traumatised Ryan" narrative even more absurd, he even said in the DR during his warning that Roxanne wouldn't have seen it as anything other than play fighting. He was just upset that he got a warning for something so trivial, which is fair enough...but hardly what it's being made out to be.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Correct! Which is what makes this "poor traumatised Ryan" narrative even more absurd, he even said in the DR during his warning that Roxanne wouldn't have seen it as anything other than play fighting. He was just upset that he got a warning for something so trivial, which is fair enough...but hardly what it's being made out to be.

Im not a fan of Ryans,but she has labelled him terrible names and what she said should have been shown in its entirety ,then the others can make up their own minds who is right and who is wrong

[Headie]

Excited for this, gonna be the last episode I'm fully invested in, although can't watch it live as I'm going out.

I'm really gonna miss this drama, it's felt like the golden days of BB with everyone talking about it and it becoming a national thing.

Also how bad is the soundproofing of the closed off stairs Thank god evictions are normally done in the external lounge. Although tbf, back in the C4 days the crowd used weren't this caveman-like in their "Get ___ Out" chants so HMs never heard them on eviction nights really. Long gone are the days where the crowd boos/cheers the actual evictee and that's what the HMs hear. Now it's just angry chavs trying to influence the house.

[Headie]

Originally Posted by supertv247

I’ve not been this excited for an episode in years omg the crowd is iconic this all fell into place so perfectly

Really? Surprised to hear you say that, I thought you championed the No Outside Contact rule.

Originally Posted by Epic.

The crowd are SCUM, I wanted Roxanne to act even worse over the weekend before her impending eviction, would've been much more satisfying for both her fans and haters

We were well and truly robbed of the best eviction night since Grace's eviction.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Im not a fan of Ryans,but she has labelled him terrible names and what she said should have been shown in its entirety ,then the others can make up their own minds who is right and who is wrong

But they can do that on the outside? The Big Brother house is supposed to be a bubble where they create their own narratives and storylines, and it's not always a nice place. Like I said, this is going to be a storm in a teacup for Ryan when he leaves and realises everyone was always on his side...there is no reason whatsoever for the producers to be interfering with the house dynamics, they should be left to play out naturally

Either people want back to basics or they don't

[Macie Lightfoot]

I still can't process the backwardness of Helen Wood fans criticizing someone for slander and defamation of character.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

He hasn't seen what she's said or called him yet, Im sure he wouldn't have made up with her if he had

He should sue her.

[south12345]

Lying right up till the end.....and the Oscar goes to...…

[Vanessa]

Ryan didn't have to apologise, because she flat out lied. But he's so nice he did anyway.

[BBDodge]

Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt

Well done, Sally. If there had been any violence there wouldn't be a warning, he'd be out.

Also, everyone was there when he did it.

They must think Roxy is referring to another incident that took place elsewhere in the house that day.

If she said it was that bit of shadow boxing in the kitchen they'd have told her to get a grip.