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TaylorCallum · 18-09-2018, 09:34 PM

I don't know why y'all taking that video seriously. He's sitting there with a stuffed animal headpiece and a ring around his neck, I honestly think he's lowkey trolling

. Don't get me wrong he probably does have somewhat similar opinions as to what he stated in the video, but I'm pretty sure he was deliberately trying to be provocative.

As for what he said, I don't think I personally could hit a woman (some women could definitely beat me up anyway) but at the same time I'm not going to be overly outraged at a guy if a woman hits him and he hits her back. Not saying I agree with it, but you don't know what type of reaction you're going to get if you hit someone, especially if it's someone you don't know. Some men might not hit back but sometimes you'll pick the wrong person on the wrong day and get smacked 10x harder. It's the risk you take I guess. Nobody should be laying hands on anyone though. But it reminds me of this iconic video:

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Marsh. · 18-09-2018, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RileyH

But if a woman is hitting a man then surely he has every right to do the same?

No, neither have the right.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Robodog · 18-09-2018, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Elliot

I think the argument is there are societal barriers that even with the equal opportunity would never be fufilled by certain groups. Like for example the situation in America for a lot of black communities, where a lot of these communities are unable to break through economically, and it is believed to be because of systemic and socialtal prejudice and barriers. It’s an involved debate but I think the baseline idea is that equal oppurntity isn’t justice to these groups

Obama's presidency proves that blacks in america can now achieve the highest office. There are so many factors and debates as to why some communities perform better economically than others. But preventing equal opportunities in favour of forcing equal outcomes is not the answer.

I mean, you could go on forever defining groups and sub-groups and intersectional groups - all requiring equal representation in every sphere. It's too complex and unrealistic. It would require constant policing. And it sees people as categories rather than as individuals - and we all know how dangerous that mentality is (eg - Nazis, Soviet Russia etc)

Basically authoritarianism. Whereas equal opportunities = freedom.

TaylorCallum · 18-09-2018, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Robodog

Obama's presidency proves that blacks in america can now achieve the highest office. There are so many factors and debates as to why some communities perform better economically than others. But preventing equal opportunities in favour of forcing equal outcomes is not the answer.

I mean, you could go on forever defining groups and sub-groups and intersectional groups - all requiring equal representation in every sphere. It's too complex and unrealistic. It would require constant policing. And it sees people as categories rather than as individuals - and we all know how dangerous that mentality is (eg - Nazis, Soviet Russia etc)

Basically authoritarianism. Whereas equal opportunities = freedom.

Obama's presidency didn't do as much for the black community as people think. Just because they had a black president - biracial technically, he's part white - doesn't really nullify the many issues that black people face in the US. They are still getting shot in the streets by police officers and not even just in the streets, Botham Jean was shot in his own home. The US still has a huge race issue (well so does the world really).

If Obama had said or done even a fraction of the things that Donald Trump had done he would have never have gotten elected and if he was you'd be sure those Republicans would be foaming at the mouth screaming about impeachment every second of the day.

I do agree, however, about the "quotas". Having to have this person here because they are one thing and hiring that person there because they are another is very strange. It should go to the person best suited to the job but there are still a lot of problems that minority groups face.

smudgie · 18-09-2018, 10:44 PM

don’t hit anyone you are not prepared to get hit back by.

Ant. · 18-09-2018, 10:47 PM

Ysee, unlike Ellis (who probably didn't remember writing tweets from 4 years ago), Cameron literally labelled himself as a vlogger. Did he not expect people to search him up and find these types of videos...