[Cal.]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

She needs a blooming good meal, a good bloke and a baby which will make her realise that the world doesn't revolve around her. It would be the making of her.

I’m SICK of my mam and my aunties saying this about me!

[Elliot]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..you changed your avatar, Elliot...a magnificent choice....I adore Gemma...

Amongst the list of legends of the best female cast ever

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by Mokka

Whoa whoa whoa....

The suggestion that she is a hysterical woman who needs a man to keep her in line and a baby to focus her simple mind on is straight out of the 50s. Why don't we just sign her up for electro shock therapy to get all those silly vegan notions zapped rt out of her.

There have been plenty of houseguests before her, men and women, meat eaters even, who have not reacted well to being in the BB house... (and I would say plenty after words to come... but hey ho... ) Don't blame it on being female or not enough meat.

What absolute rubbish and not what I meant at all.

Anyone can tell Kay has no focus in her life due to her many attempts to become an actress, phallic whatsit artist and whatever else fad she might be clinging on to at any time.

My comments were made hoping she could find happiness and stability in her life rather than what she has at the moment which makes her unstable at worst and unfocused at best.

She is 31, not a teenager although she acts like one and she is the center of her own childlike universe and it really is time she stop playing like a fairy and grew up.

I hope she can find someone to shift her focus off herself, a partner and child is not such a bad thing, although some on here may think it is.

[Vanessa]

She's very passive aggressive. Glad she's gone.

[LemonJam]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

She needs a blooming good meal, a good bloke and a baby which will make her realise that the world doesn't revolve around her. It would be the making of her.

lmao just delete your account please

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

What absolute rubbish and not what I meant at all.

Anyone can tell Kay has no focus in her life due to her many attempts to become an actress, phallic whatsit artist and whatever else fad she might be clinging on to at any time.

My comments were made hoping she could find happiness and stability in her life rather than what she has at the moment which makes her unstable at worst and unfocused at best.

She is 31, not a teenager although she acts like one and she is the center of her own childlike universe and it really is time she stop playing like a fairy and grew up.

I hope she can find someone to shift her focus off herself, a partner and child is not such a bad thing, although some on here may think it is.

...I don’t think that Mokka is saying that having a partner and a child or children is a bad thing in any way, Poppsy...if that’s what is wanted and desired by someone..be they Male, female, vegan or meat eater etc...but it isn’t something that’s ever needed though...edgy, nervous, indecisive, emotional and not wanting confrontations etc as you see those charitirestics...?...are all part of who she is and they’re not necessarily negatives unless she herself feels they are and wants to work on changing aspects of herself..and she seems really content and happy with who she is...and so she should be..she needs no readjustments or accessories at all...she’s perfect just the way she is...

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by LemonJam

lmao just delete your account please

Not about to happen.

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...I don’t think that Mokka is saying that having a partner and a child or children is a bad thing in any way, Poppsy...if that’s what is wanted and desired by someone..be they Male, female, vegan or meat eater etc...but it isn’t something that’s ever needed though...edgy, nervous, indecisive, emotional and not wanting confrontations etc as you see those charitirestics...?...are all part of who she is and they’re not necessarily negatives unless she herself feels they are and wants to work on changing aspects of herself..and she seems really content and happy with who she is...and so she should be..she needs no readjustments or accessories at all...she’s perfect just the way she is...

Many on here saw her as I have written, it is not only my opinion.

I disagree that she needs not to change, she easily becomes upset over the slightest perceived issues and she is far from grounded.

She clashed with several housemates who found her histrionics fake and self serving. Because everything she did was for her own promotion but she hid it under her sweetness and light persona.

Look at the difference between her and Zoe, who has had responsibility of a child. Her and Kay are chalk and cheese as Zoe lives in the real world and doesn't describe herself as a fairy or a selfless good person ad nauseum.

She could have given a positive vibe about being a vegan, what she actually gave was an over emotional flaky impression of someone who thought she was too good for the rough and tumble of life with others who were meat eaters and alcohol drinkers.

[Amy Jade]

This is embarrassing to read.

Women are selfish until they get a man and child to look after...what a load of old bollocks

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

This is embarrassing to read.

Women are selfish until they get a man and child to look after...what a load of old bollocks

I don't think that's what poppsy meant .
Plus Kay clearly has a partner or someone . Aslo when people have other responsibilities aka a wife/ husband & children it makes them more aware and they'd be thinking more about their family and how they're being perceived.

[Lostie!]

Since the baby and boyfriend comment has already been well covered, I think it's also worth pointing out that vegans manage to have blooming good meals just fine.

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I don't think that's what poppsy meant .
Plus Kay clearly has a partner or someone . Aslo when people have other responsibilities aka a wife/ husband & children it makes them more aware and they'd be thinking more about their family and how they're being perceived.

Thank you, I stand by my points,

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

This is embarrassing to read.

Women are selfish until they get a man and child to look after...what a load of old bollocks

Don't be embarrassed, I would hate for you to think that.

Yes, I know a lot of women who thought only of themselves until they had a partner and a child. They would say so themselves.

They became far more responsible and loved having their child, what's so wrong with that?

[arista]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

By sounds of it she already has a "bloke" or someone , as she was implying to Lewis when he tried holding her hand .

Can you imagine her bringing up kids , i bet she'd be forcing her vegan agenda on them . It will be all "no darlin you can't eat meat as it's murder and you're abusing the animals feelings" as she cries yet again .

Sadly Joey Carbstrong's views must of rubbed off on her. fine be a vegan but don't be such a twat about it . This guy harasses farmers and films them against their will .

Youtube video

He is CRAZY

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by arista

He is CRAZY

That's not the end of ! . The guy guilt trips & harasses farmers who are trying to earn a living !

His has a YouTube channel where he bashes all meat eaters . He's like an extremist rather than a vegan! , He's unstable .

[Beso]

The fact that Kay is 30 something is the perfect reason for her to not want confrontation in her life, not wanting confrontation is surely a sign of maturity, and someone who may have endured plenty in the 15 years of adulthood may have become tired of it. Her face certainly looked like she was exhausted by Lewis f.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

Many on here saw her as I have written, it is not only my opinion.

I disagree that she needs not to change, she easily becomes upset over the slightest perceived issues and she is far from grounded.

She clashed with several housemates who found her histrionics fake and self serving. Because everything she did was for her own promotion but she hid it under her sweetness and light persona.

Look at the difference between her and Zoe, who has had responsibility of a child. Her and Kay are chalk and cheese as Zoe lives in the real world and doesn't describe herself as a fairy or a selfless good person ad nauseum.

She could have given a positive vibe about being a vegan, what she actually gave was an over emotional flaky impression of someone who thought she was too good for the rough and tumble of life with others who were meat eaters and alcohol drinkers.

I agree with a lot of what you say about Kay's character here, and I think she's a bad representative for Veganism because of her character (not because of her beliefs or the way she lives her life). Her airy fairy, sweet, innocent little angel persona, has probably reaffirmed the impression in some people's minds that Veganism is only for a certain type of person, rather than for the average person. The average person doesn't want to be associated, through Veganism, with the image Kay portrays.

I don't think she needs to change by having a husband or children, or by changing her focus on a cause she believes in or her career choice. I do, however, think she needs to address certain parts of her character that aren't so pleasant and to begin acting like a grown woman in her 30s, rather than some childlike 'fairy'. That way people would find her more real, and would respect her and her cause much more- she might then have her message about Veganism heard and considered.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

By sounds of it she already has a "bloke" or someone , as she was implying to Lewis when he tried holding her hand .

Can you imagine her bringing up kids , i bet she'd be forcing her vegan agenda on them . It will be all "no darlin you can't eat meat as it's murder and you're abusing the animals feelings" as she cries yet again .

Sadly Joey Carbstrong's views must of rubbed off on her. fine be a vegan but don't be such a twat about it . This guy harasses farmers and films them against their will .

Youtube video

How is Kay similar to him whatsoever?

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

How is Kay similar to him whatsoever?

I didn't say she's exactly like him ,but some of his behaviour has probably rubbed off on her . There was a photo of them both on a animal rights protest .

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by parmnion

The fact that Kay is 30 something is the perfect reason for her to not want confrontation in her life, not wanting confrontation is surely a sign of maturity, and someone who may have endured plenty in the 15 years of adulthood may have become tired of it. Her face certainly looked like she was exhausted by Lewis f.

So why go and sit near him, cuddle him and then get into another similar altication about the same things.

Maturity in a woman of 31 who wants to be seen as fairy like, sugar sweet and who does poke, prod and then tried to shut the conversation down.

She would say her part, then refuse to listen to his reply. That is not maturity in a lot of people's book. He was her last reason to leave, but not her first or second, running for the Fire Exit, attention seeking for all it's worth.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

So why go and sit near him, cuddle him and then get into another similar altication about the same things.

Maturity in a woman of 31 who wants to be seen as fairy like, sugar sweet and who does poke, prod and then tried to shut the conversation down.

She would say her part, then refuse to listen to his reply. That is not maturity in a lot of people's book. He was her last reason to leave, but not her first or second, running for the Fire Exit, attention seeking for all it's worth.

Yeah Kay started it by calling Lewis arrogant ,and then their friendship went down hill. Then there was the unnecessary drama over "holding hands"
She always started an argument ,then she'd run away .

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

This is embarrassing to read.

Women are selfish until they get a man and child to look after...what a load of old bollocks

basically this

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

basically this

What a surprise, Not........

[Beso]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

So why go and sit near him, cuddle him and then get into another similar altication about the same things.

Maturity in a woman of 31 who wants to be seen as fairy like, sugar sweet and who does poke, prod and then tried to shut the conversation down.

She would say her part, then refuse to listen to his reply. That is not maturity in a lot of people's book. He was her last reason to leave, but not her first or second, running for the Fire Exit, attention seeking for all it's worth.

She went to sit in the sun and she sat on the furthest seat from him and was actually only half in and half out of the sun so as not to sit nearer to him, even though he was busy doing something with his back to her.. She never uttered a word to him and maybe she may have wanted him to apologise so discretely positioned herself so he could...but she just wanted some morning sunshine imo.

She would give her view yeah course, cause they agreed to discuss it... But no, Lewis just kept interrupting like an impatient penis. Shouting loudly, while she would as you say be all calm and mature, or fairy like if you prefer.

As for not listen to him, your kidding right? The whole house had to listen to him ranting away at her she was only a foot away so I don't know how she couldn't listen?

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by parmnion

She went to sit in the sun and she sat on the furthest seat from him and was actually only half in and half out of the sun so as not to sit nearer to him, even though he was busy doing something with his back to her.. She never uttered a word to him and maybe she may have wanted him to apologise so discretely positioned herself so he could...but she just wanted some morning sunshine imo.

She would give her view yeah course, cause they agreed to discuss it... But no, Lewis just kept interrupting like an impatient penis. Shouting loudly, while she would as you say be all calm and mature, or fairy like if you prefer.

As for not listen to him, your kidding right? The whole house had to listen to him ranting away at her she was only a foot away so I don't know how she couldn't listen?

The garden isn't that small yet she still chose to sit next to him for a reaction .

Lewis has his issues but so does Kay