[Vanessa]

Maybe he feels left out. Because Cameron and Lewis both like to analyse things. Their mindset is quite similar and they get on brilliantly.
Cian saying that Lewis is making him paranoid, i don't agree with.
Cameron has always moaned for England, but Cian likes him so much he's blind to his faults.
Glad that he apologised to Lewis and they cleared the air. I don't want the lads to fall out.

[Niamh.]

I think the reason he gave was pretty valid, Cian was clearly upset about the whole Kay situation, I wasn't a fan of kays but Lewis behaviour towards her the night she left was all his fault and totally out of order and Cian was spot on. Cameron is very easily influenced i think and I see why Cian would worry a bit about him because he's so young

[GoldHeart]

I don't get jealous vibes from Cian .
I think he's just fed up of Lewis & Cameron repeating the same thing .

Even before Kay left , remember when Kay & Lewis were arguing in the bedroom . Kenny ,Sian etc were eavesdropping and they were like "why are they arguing about the same thing" .

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I think the reason he gave was pretty valid, Cian was clearly upset about the whole Kay situation, I wasn't a fan of kays but Lewis behaviour towards her the night she left was all his fault and totally out of order and Cian was spot on. Cameron is very easily influenced i think and I see why Cian would worry a bit about him because he's so young

I'm not sure. Cameron strikes me a very strong minded. I don't think he's easily influenced at all. And didn't he hate Kay way before her and Lewis fell out?

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I don't get jealous vibes from Cian .
I think he's just fed up of Lewis & Cameron repeating the same thing .

Even before Kay left , remember when Kay & Lewis were arguing in the bedroom . Kenny ,Sian etc were eavesdropping and they were like "why are they arguing about the same thing" .

Lewis and Cameron are always going to be close. Because they like to discuss things and get on so well. But i agree they should move on.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I'm not sure. Cameron strikes me a very strong minded. I don't think he's easily influenced at all. And didn't he hate Kay way before her and Lewis fell out?

I'm not talking about him disliking Kay, I'm talking about the constant negativity and moaning that Lewis seems to bring to the table 90% of the time. I do think Cameron can be prone to negativity also but he's also 18 years old and Lewis is feeding that in him whereas more positive people seem to help bring out that side of Cameron

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I'm not talking about him disliking Kay, I'm talking about the constant negativity and moaning that Lewis seems to bring to the table 90% of the time. I do think Cameron can be prone to negativity also but he's also 18 years old and Lewis is feeding that in him whereas more positive people seem to help bring out that side of Cameron

I agree they should move on. Talk about something else.

[poppsywoppsy]

Didn't Cian say he wanted to get closer to Cameron?

There fore isn't it a bit of jealousy on Cians part that Cameron is closer to Lewis, even on a platonic level.

I don't get Cians nicey nicey act, I think he is quite a demanding person when he wants something.

Cameron said he was not going to talk about Kay again, as Cian is demanding, we shall see.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I agree they should move on. Talk about something else.

I genuinely believe Lewis need to see someone after this show, I think he's probably a good guy but he does have anger issues (and I don't mean that in a he's violent kind of a way)

[Elliot]

I think he was fair last night but didn’t he say he was attracted to cameron/ found him attractive? If anything it’s cian is into Cameron but Cameron is into Lewis. Here for the messy love triangle

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

Didn't Cian say he wanted to get closer to Cameron?

There fore isn't it a bit of jealousy on Cians part that Cameron is closer to Lewis, even on a platonic level.

I don't get Cians nicey nicey act, I think he is quite a demanding person when he wants something.

Cameron said he was not going to talk about Kay again, as Cian is demanding, we shall see.

I think he likes Lewis as well, but he probably finds him frustrating sometimes and i get that. His crush on Cameron makes him blind to his faults, i think.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Elliot

I think he was fair last night but didn’t he say he was attracted to cameron/ found him attractive? If anything it’s cian is into Cameron but Cameron is into Lewis. Here for the messy love triangle

Lewis has said he's straight though

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I genuinely believe Lewis need to see someone after this show, I think he's probably a good guy but he does have anger issues (and I don't mean that in a he's violent kind of a way)

I agree Lewis has a lot of issues. But i think he's a good guy. He probably needs some counselling.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Lewis has said he's straight though

Yes, Lewis has said he's straight.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

Didn't Cian say he wanted to get closer to Cameron?

There fore isn't it a bit of jealousy on Cians part that Cameron is closer to Lewis, even on a platonic level.

I don't get Cians nicey nicey act, I think he is quite a demanding person when he wants something.

Cameron said he was not going to talk about Kay again, as Cian is demanding, we shall see.

I agree with Cian that they need to stop talking about it. Because it's creating a negative atmosphere in the House.

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I genuinely believe Lewis need to see someone after this show, I think he's probably a good guy but he does have anger issues (and I don't mean that in a he's violent kind of a way)

Lewis has previously said he is well aware of his own failings of over analysis and how he responds, so you are right that he has these problems.

Of course, everything becomes magnified in there and all the spare time they have to think about things make them more important than they really are.

Cameron was right to say that as it didn't involve Cian, he shouldn't say they couldn't talk about it but they could have taken the conversation out of Cians hearing if they wanted.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

Lewis has previously said he is well aware of his own failings of over analysis and how he responds, so you are right that he has these problems.

Of course, everything becomes magnified in there and all the spare time they have to think about things make them more important than they really are.

Cameron was right to say that as it didn't involve Cian, he shouldn't say they couldn't talk about it but they could have taken the conversation out of Cians hearing if they wanted.

True, maybe they should go somewhere more private, so they can talk in peace.

[Vanessa]

I don't think Cameron sees Lewis that way. He sees him as an older brother. They have a strong bond.

[Toy Soldier]

In a word... yes. It's not the full story or even close to the full story, I think he has many other issues with Lewis, but I do think he's slightly jealous of their connection and concerned about Cameron being influenced partially for that reason... and while that's not the reason for his opinion on it... it is what's making him so irritated about it.

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I don't think Cameron sees Lewis that way. He sees him as an older brother. They have a strong bond.

Ohhh no I don't think that's the case at all either. Cameron has shown some indication that he likes Lewis, Lewis has very deliberately pushed the "this is my little bro" angle to make it clear to Cameron that while he is interested in having a strong / close connection with him, it's not "that sort" of connection.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

In a word... yes. It's not the full story or even close to the full story, I think he has many other issues with Lewis, but I do think he's slightly jealous of their connection and concerned about Cameron being influenced partially for that reason... and while that's not the reason for his opinion on it... it is what's making him so irritated about it.




Ohhh no I don't think that's the case at all either. Cameron has shown some indication that he likes Lewis, Lewis has very deliberately pushed the "this is my little bro" angle to make it clear to Cameron that while he is interested in having a strong / close connection with him, it's not "that sort" of connection.

I disagree with this for the simple fact that Cian was very upset the night Kay was leaving, more so than any other HM (which had nothing to do with Cameron and lewis connection/bond/whatever) so his irritation with listening to lewis and Cameron bitching about her after she'd walked would fit in line with his reaction the night before. It makes sense

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I'm not talking about him disliking Kay, I'm talking about the constant negativity and moaning that Lewis seems to bring to the table 90% of the time. I do think Cameron can be prone to negativity also but he's also 18 years old and Lewis is feeding that in him whereas more positive people seem to help bring out that side of Cameron

Cameron is a completely different person when he is with Tomasz, he treats Tomasz as an equal whereas with LF I feel Cameron is a bit in awe of him and foolishly buying into the 'you are my little bro' spiel that LF is peddling

[lewys]

or he is just sick of cameron and lewis moaning for 3 weeks lmao