[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...strange how Zoe ‘lost it’ when she’s been spending so much time with Lewis and she never ‘lost it’ when spending much time with housemates who don’t have the level of paranoia and contempt and intolerance as Lewis has...

Following on from this point, Ammi, it was lovely to see Cameron's interactions with other housemates in recent episodes, and it was noticeable how much more relaxed, rational and happy he seemed. It was like a darkness had been lifted.

He also showed lots of positive characteristics- his understanding of Hussain's feelings, his compassion for Cian, friendliness towards Akeem, his kindness and loyalty towards Tomasz- which proved what a lovely guy he is when apart from negative influences.

I actually like Cameron a lot when he is with other housemates, but just as with Zoe, Lewis brings out the worst in him.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Garfie

Following on from this point, Ammi, it was lovely to see Cameron's interactions with other housemates in recent episodes, and it was noticeable how much more relaxed, rational and happy he seemed. It was like a darkness had been lifted.

He also showed lots of positive characteristics- his understanding of Hussain's feelings, his compassion for Cian, friendliness towards Akeem, his kindness and loyalty towards Tomasz- which proved what a lovely guy he is when apart from negative influences.

I actually like Cameron a lot when he is with other housemates, but just as with Zoe, Lewis brings out the worst in him.

..yeah Garfie...without the shadow of Lewis, I think we would have seen a different Cameron...others encourage the positive in him..(..and I don’t think he’s a naturally positive person....)...but they encourage positivity to the surface...Lewis stifles and suppresses it and sadly he’s the biggest influence on Cameron, Cameron adores him...the fact that he adores such negativity as Lewis is...shows his ability to see the best in people...I loved how he hugged Cian when Cian was so distraught and upset with the whole eruption..it was a natural affection and protection/comfort, type thing...it’ll be interesting to see in the aftermath what Lewis says to Cameron...whether he’ll spin Cian into a negative of shouldn’t have become involved, etc...and then interesting to see Cameron absorbing it all...again..and again.....

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..yeah Garfie...without the shadow of Lewis, I think we would have seen a different Cameron...others encourage the positive in him..(..and I don’t think he’s a naturally positive person....)...but they encourage positivity to the surface...Lewis stifles and suppresses it and sadly he’s the biggest influence on Cameron, Cameron adores him...the fact that he adores such negativity as Lewis is...shows his ability to see the best in people...I loved how he hugged Cian when Cian was so distraught and upset with the whole eruption..it was a natural affection and protection/comfort, type thing...it’ll be interesting to see in the aftermath what Lewis says to Cameron...whether he’ll spin Cian into a negative of shouldn’t have become involved, etc...and then interesting to see Cameron absorbing it all...again..and again.....

It was a beautiful moment between Cameron and Cian, and I just loved what I saw in Cameron at that moment.

You know I said the same thing in another thread about how Lewis will criticise and target Cian again for getting involved, and maybe suggesting Cian's distress was fake to get airtime, just to build distrust again. I honestly believe that if Lewis had not sown negative seeds in Cameron's head about Cian before, they would have repaired their friendship at the time and it would have developed.

Cameron is young and naive, and is so in awe of Lewis that I don't think he recognises how negative his influence has been in many ways. However, I do think the first signs of Cameron detaching himself have begun to emerge, and I hope it continues. I think Cameron would blossom without Lewis there, so for Cameron, I really hope Lewis is evicted tonight.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Garfie

It was a beautiful moment between Cameron and Cian, and I just loved what I saw in Cameron at that moment.

You know I said the same thing in another thread about how Lewis will criticise and target Cian again for getting involved, and maybe suggesting Cian's distress was fake to get airtime, just to build distrust again. I honestly believe that if Lewis had not sown negative seeds in Cameron's head about Cian before, they would have repaired their friendship at the time and it would have developed.

Cameron is young and naive, and is so in awe of Lewis that I don't think he recognises how negative his influence has been in many ways. However, I do think the first signs of Cameron detaching himself have begun to emerge, and I hope it continues. I think Cameron would blossom without Lewis there, so for Cameron, I really hope Lewis is evicted tonight.

....yeah it’s so sad that one person can plant so many seeds of paranoia and negativity in so many..but I guess, understandable as well with that type of pressure cooker environment ..the paranoid seeds would be there anyway, all he had to do was nurture them and it’s rare that we see such an extreme of negativity in a person’s character...he’s had less effect on the more balanced and positive people but if it’s been a donkey on the edge..he’s pushed them over the edge completely.....


..I don’t think he’ll go tonight, Garfie...I actually think he’ll be the winner..and to have someone win who feels they have shared their experience with a house full of reptiles, who hasn’t appreciated the people he has shared the experience with or hasn’t appreciated the experience he’s had...who basically shows so much contempt and intolerance..?...doesn’t sit right with me...

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Ammi

....yeah it’s so sad that one person can plant so many seeds of paranoia and negativity in so many..but I guess, understandable as well with that type of pressure cooker environment ..the paranoid seeds would be there anyway, all he had to do was nurture them and it’s rare that we see such an extreme of negativity in a person’s character...he’s had less effect on the more balanced and positive people but if it’s been a donkey on the edge..he’s pushed them over the edge completely.....


..I don’t think he’ll go tonight, Garfie...I actually think he’ll be the winner..and to have someone win who feels they have shared their experience with a house full of reptiles, who hasn’t appreciated the people he has shared the experience with or hasn’t appreciated the experience he’s had...who basically shows so much contempt and intolerance..?...doesn’t sit right with me...

Don't Ammi. This wouldn't sit comfortably with me either. But I don't want him to win, and can't believe he will. If he stays, I hope he will bring about his own downfall, and that someone like Tomasz, Akeem or Cian triumphs. Surely, the longer he stays, the more people's eyes will be opened, and consequently the positive will win over the negative.

Am I just being hopelessly optimistic or foolishly idealistic? I'd like to think not, as I can't allow the dismay I would feel to emerge at this point.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Garfie

Don't Ammi. This wouldn't sit comfortably with me either. But I don't want him to win, and can't believe he will. If he stays, I hope he will bring about his own downfall, and that someone like Tomasz, Akeem or Cian triumphs. Surely, the longer he stays, the more people's eyes will be opened, and consequently the positive will win over the negative.

Am I just being hopelessly optimistic or foolishly idealistic? I'd like to think not, as I can't allow the dismay I would feel to emerge at this point.

...I know it’s a different house and I’m not comparing Lewis either...but what I keep thinking is...Helen Wood, Helen Wood, Helen Wood...and I just feel a little of that vibe this year...I will though absorb your optimism, Garfie..and think I’m probably just under the influence of Lewis’ paranoia and trust that someone who has loved their experience and appreciated their housemates..(..the good, the bad and the ugly of them..)...will win...

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...I know it’s a different house and I’m not comparing Lewis either...but what I keep thinking is...Helen Wood, Helen Wood, Helen Wood...and I just feel a little of that vibe this year...I will though absorb your optimism, Garfie..and think I’m probably just under the influence of Lewis’ paranoia and trust that someone who has loved their experience and appreciated their housemates..(..the good, the bad and the ugly of them..)...will win...

Mmm......... a more intelligent, articulate and devious Helen Wood? Interesting theory. I hope not for the final series.

I really don't mind if the winner has played a game, but it needs to be someone who has played the game with decency, joy and consideration of others, rather than with negativity and manipulation.

[chuff me dizzy]

Im so glad Lewis proved himself the real man who never gave Hussain what he wanted ,Hussain was eaten up by jealousy so tried to take it out on Lewis, but Lewis being the better person didnt rise to him ,he sat back and let Hussain destroy himself and seal his fate tonight .... Well done Lewis