[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

They have clearly said that the coins could buy them power...Hussein got Kenalys coins which enabled him to buy the power to put Lewis up...why would she not give them to her best buddy? Rigging? Cameron ended the week with the most coins...his power bought him the power of immunity and eviction. It could have been anyone.
The 'rigging' of VTS V VTE got the right vote...unyet still Lewis got saved. Then the game changer game was 'rigged'...because everyone but Lewis had fake keys ...even though they knew Cameron having the power would not evict his mate...I mean really..its laughable

It's very convenient that Cameron has been the only one that's been given automatic imnunity from the production for having the most coins, on a night where him and Lewis were in a lot more danger than usual, if you think that's all just a coincidence then fair enough, but I definitely think that the whole thing was foul tonight, if the task was rigged itself we'll never 100% know, but there was no point in Lewis F even winning that task after the farce of having Cameron being the sole decider on who leaves.

And also what was Cian given when he had the most coins? Or Isaac for that matter?

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Tbh I'm not watching anymore after tonight so well done to the production if that was what they were aiming for because it's worked.

None of the Narcissists or the Thug was able to leave in that second eviction tonight which was disgraceful imo.

I haven't watched any of it yet . I'm not surprised by the result , i keep hearing there was other twists again anything to save their precious Lewis.

We knew Hussain was a goner and it's predictable Isabella has gone and tbh it's poetic justice her leaving . In a way Hussain has took her down with him .

The newbies never had a chance though lets all be honest . This reminds me of the tv show The Circle where the new players were seen as a threat .

[Ammi]

..I honestly can’t see how a task like that could have been rigged..there would have had to be so many variations and unknowns factored in which couldn’t have been because of the speed of it all and because of not knowing until the last minute which housemates would be taking part...if all keys had been cut slightly off, other than the keys Lewis had...?...then that slightly off cut would have risked no one except Lewis getting beyond the starting lock..but that didn’t happen because of the housemates who were close behind him and almost there but not quite there...the podium places would have had to have been fixed as well for all to be in the right lane and that can’t be predetermined without knowing which housemates will be taking part...and it’s also about the individual calm and focus of a housemate...Zoe for instance was turning a lock and then looking at others at how they were doing..?...removing her focus from the task and this task demanded complete focus...for me it makes complete sense that a task like this would be made perfectly for Lewis...but not because it was rigged for Lewis...but because he has that sense of self, of only focusing on himself...of dismissing and isolating from those around him completely...in terms of consideration or understanding of others, that would be a weakness...which he shows so often because he shows no tolerance levels at all...but in terms of a task like this, it would be a considerable strength..that ability to completely isolate and focus...no fix or rig at all, there were too many other housemates almost there but not quite there...

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I honestly can’t see how a task like that could have been rigged..there would have had to be so many variations and unknowns factored in which couldn’t have been because of the speed of it all and because of not knowing until the last minute which housemates would be taking part...if all keys had been cut slightly off, other than the keys Lewis had...?...then that slightly off cut would have risked no one except Lewis getting beyond the starting lock..but that didn’t happen because of the housemates who were close behind him and almost there but not quite there...the podium places would have had to have been fixed as well for all to be in the right lane and that can’t be predetermined without knowing which housemates will be taking part...and it’s also about the individual calm and focus of a housemate...Zoe for instance was turning a lock and then looking at others at how they were doing..?...removing her focus from the task and this task demanded complete focus...for me it makes complete sense that a task like this would be made perfectly for Lewis...but not because it was rigged for Lewis...but because he has that sense of self, of only focusing on himself...of dismissing and isolating from those around him completely...in terms of consideration or understanding of others, that would be a weakness...which he shows so often because he shows no tolerance levels at all...but in terms of a task like this, it would be a considerable strength..that ability to completely isolate and focus...no fix or rig at all, there were too many other housemates almost there but not quite there...

Lewis is good at tasks that require calm and concentration. This is why he won. Same when he did the dominoes task.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Lewis is good at tasks that require calm and concentration. This is why he won. Same when he did the dominoes task.

..yeah, tasks that require single minded focus are definately his thing, Vanessa...(..but as it wouldn’t be known which housemates would be taking part then it couldn’t have been rigged to be his thing, you know...)...it just happened to be a perfect speed task...it’s just a shame for me that he applies the same to the emotions of others...only ever focused on his own emotions and never looking around to see how anyone else is doing.....life and self growth doesn’t require focus..it requires expansion and allowance and tolerance and the ability to see beyond self...

[Macie Lightfoot]

How can people even say definitively that Lewis took it slow and easy when the camera job was so poor that we saw him like two or three times total? We can't make any judgment about his strategy or demeanor bc we hardly saw it.

At least we got cloth ears out of this mess

[Ammi]

..I guess because he showed no emotion at all in what we saw, Macie...as opposed to...omg, I got to get there, I got to get there...I GOT TO GET ThERE...was much the vibe from the others shown...focusing on the importance of it, rather than the task itself...

[Macie Lightfoot]

Maybe you're right Ammi, I need to rewatch. To me, a lot of posts in this thread read as Lewis fans spinning some narrative about how he overcame all of the odds to survive tonight when he was never in any danger in the first place.

[Ammi]

..Lewis has this ability to isolate himself from the emotions or understanding of others and only see himself...a huge weakness in terms of his self journey to be the best he can be..but a huge strength and advantage in terms of the task...the odds for the other housemates didn’t really stand a chance at all.....he was never in danger, he wasn’t stretched at all, the task perfectly suited who he is...

[Shaun]

@the thread title

me when i'm trying to get my gay offspring laid

[Pro Sniper]

Quite surprised at your personal love for this desperate douchebag, chuffy. You're one of the few on here I'd have put money on to see through any and all these slimy scumbags who plot their way through these type of shows. No doubt your sex hormones(like 99% of his his apologists) are holding your better judgement prisoner in this case.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Lewis is good at tasks that require calm and concentration. This is why he won. Same when he did the dominoes task.

Yes Very Pro

[BBDodge]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

Maybe you're right Ammi, I need to rewatch. To me, a lot of posts in this thread read as Lewis fans spinning some narrative about how he overcame all of the odds to survive tonight when he was never in any danger in the first place.

But Lewis didn't know that so hats off to him for winning another gamechanger.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

The difference with the Dominoes task is that the production can't meddle with the Domino pieces, where as they can easily mess with tonight's task through the keys, or the locks themselves being faulty.

But they didn't Mocky.

[BBDodge]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

The difference with the Dominoes task is that the production can't meddle with the Domino pieces, where as they can easily mess with tonight's task through the keys, or the locks themselves being faulty.

We didn't see it as there was a commercial break but how did Lewis come to be in that particular lane?

A fix could only work if BB told him to choose that one.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I haven't watched any of it yet . I'm not surprised by the result , i keep hearing there was other twists again anything to save their precious Lewis.

We knew Hussain was a goner and it's predictable Isabella has gone and tbh it's poetic justice her leaving . In a way Hussain has took her down with him .

The newbies never had a chance though lets all be honest . This reminds me of the tv show The Circle where the new players were seen as a threat .

Most people were pretty cock sure Lewis would go last night . That is why it's never good to count your chickens before they hatch, best to sit back and watch it unfold , and thankfully it unfolded brilliantly, no fixes , no twists , as much as it annoys people Lewis is popular so some have to deal with that and no amount of name calling will change that, Infact it probably makes him more popular .

[bots]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

But they didn't Mocky.

Keep telling yourself that there is no producer manipulation Kaz, thats your right. Many including me see it quite differently

The amusing thing is that even with all their manipulation, the results, including the eventual winner, would probably have been the same anyway.

It's the last C5 series, no-one should actually care, but it doesn't sit right with many, and I for one completely understand that position.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Most people were pretty cock sure Lewis would go last night . That is why it's never good to count your chickens before they hatch, best to sit back and watch it unfold , and thankfully it unfolded brilliantly, no fixes , no twists , as much as it annoys people Lewis is popular so some have to deal with that and no amount of name calling will change that, Infact it probably makes him more popular .

I also thought Lewis would go. But I'm so glad he's still there. I probably wouldn't watch it if he wasn't there.

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Keep telling yourself that there is no producer manipulation Kaz, thats your right. Many including me see it quite differently

The amusing thing is that even with all their manipulation, the results, including the eventual winner, would probably have been the same anyway.

It's the last C5 series, no-one should actually care, but it doesn't sit right with many, and I for one completely understand that position.

Quite honestly, it smacks of sour grapes.

So you don't like Lewis, all well and good but with all the manipulation his dislikers are trying to pull so he doesn't get viewer votes are many and varied, on here is just a sample.

He is this, that, the other, don't vote for him, he has done something wrong and it just goes on and on.

So when you are saying it is fixed for him, do not ignore the other side which are trying to get him ejected and up to now have failed miserably.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Joey SNAPPED?

Bit our Chez's head RIGHT OFF.

I am officially headless

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Pro Sniper

Quite surprised at your personal love for this desperate douchebag, chuffy. You're one of the few on here I'd have put money on to see through any and all these slimy scumbags who plot their way through these type of shows. No doubt your sex hormones(like 99% of his his apologists) are holding your better judgement prisoner in this case.

I always see through the slimy gets, thats why I despise Tomasz so much ,What you see is what you get with Lewis, hes not kissing anyones backside to stay ,hes my ideal hm8 ,nothing whatsoever to do with his looks( im not that shallow) I like everything about him

[bots]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

Quite honestly, it smacks of sour grapes.

So you don't like Lewis, all well and good but with all the manipulation his dislikers are trying to pull so he doesn't get viewer votes are many and varied, on here is just a sample.

He is this, that, the other, don't vote for him, he has done something wrong and it just goes on and on.

So when you are saying it is fixed for him, do not ignore the other side which are trying to get him ejected and up to now have failed miserably.

I spent £75 this week voting to get Lewis out .... no sour grapes from me ... he came through that vote .... that's the way it goes .

Starting this week there has been attempted manipulation on the voting method, and then on the second eviction, they kept the details of the process they were going to use under wraps until the result of the first eviction was known.

People can rightly say so what ... others can rightly say ... thats dodgy, because anything that is not transparent can be seen as dodgy

Then, Cameron getting all the power ... its a game ... so what .... but he got to make his choices without any impact on his coin balance .... where everyone else has had to pay dearly for similar privilege


The producers stated at the beginning that they were going to keep the same nomination process throughout, but this week, the 3 least favourite public hm's are automatically nominated and the nominations are reversed. Thats not the same process

That's not sour grapes from me, thats questioning producer manipulation, and I think they are valid concerns

Lewis is probably going to win it anyway without any manipulation, and now, if he wins it, his win has been devalued. It's that simple.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I always see through the slimy gets, thats why I despise Tomasz so much ,What you see is what you get with Lewis, hes not kissing anyones backside to stay ,hes my ideal hm8 ,nothing whatsoever to do with his looks( im not that shallow) I like everything about him

That's exactly why i like him. He's honest and straight talking. Doesn't kiss arse, like some of them are doing.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

I spent £75 this week voting to get Lewis out .... no sour grapes from me ... he came through that vote .... that's the way it goes .

Starting this week there has been attempted manipulation on the voting method, and then on the second eviction, they kept the details of the process they were going to use under wraps until the result of the first eviction was known.

People can rightly say so what ... others can rightly say ... thats dodgy, because anything that is not transparent can be seen as dodgy

Then, Cameron getting all the power ... its a game ... so what .... but he got to make his choices without any impact on his coin balance .... where everyone else has had to pay dearly for similar privilege


The producers stated at the beginning that they were going to keep the same nomination process throughout, but this week, the 3 least favourite public hm's are automatically nominated and the nominations are reversed. Thats not the same process

That's not sour grapes from me, thats questioning producer manipulation, and I think they are valid concerns

Lewis is probably going to win it anyway without any manipulation, and now, if he wins it, his win has been devalued. It's that simple.

PLEASE make it stop, its getting tedious and a tad obsessive now, the best man stayed and won the game changer ... Get over it fgs

[bots]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

PLEASE make it stop, its getting tedious and a tad obsessive now, the best man stayed and won the game changer ... Get over it fgs

Dismiss all my points if you want, but I am perfectly entitled to express them without being called a bad loser .... I object strongly to that because it's just NOT true.