[elliebrew]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

He can control me anytime he likes

I rest my case

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

Ah so you're playing that card now

Lewis absolutely has the power to control people

Because Lewis has an inflated sense of himself and confidence in buckets

Someone that confident in their own opinions can make others believe that those opinions are the truth

I've seen it happen many times

Lewis pile be the perfect cult leader

He has Cameron hanging on his every word

Cameron is his own man and does what he wants.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

I rest my case

It was a joke

[elliebrew]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Cameron is his own man and does what he wants.

No Cameron is a very young, very impressionable man who sees someone that confident in their opinions that Cameron believes everything Lewis says blindly

[EllieBrownFan]

Ellie came with the scalding hot tea

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

Ah so you're playing that card now

Lewis absolutely has the power to control people

Because Lewis has an inflated sense of himself and confidence in buckets

Someone that confident in their own opinions can make others believe that those opinions are the truth

I've seen it happen many times

Lewis pile be the perfect cult leader

He has Cameron hanging on his every word

If that was truly the case then Cameron would have evicted Akeem, he wouldn’t be getting close to Akeem and he’d no longer be friends with Tomasz, Cameron might agree with him on certain things but to say he’s being controlled by him is nonsense imo and quite insulting to Cameron insinuating he hasn’t got his own mind or the capability to come to his own conclusions, which he has shown many times to not be the case.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

No Cameron is a very young, very impressionable man who sees someone that confident in their opinions that Cameron believes everything Lewis says blindly

I disagree. Cameron may be 18. but mentally he's very strong. He's not the kind of person to let anyone tell him what to do.

[elliebrew]

Originally Posted by Liam-

If that was truly the case then Cameron would have evicted Akeem, he wouldn’t be getting close to Akeem and he’d no longer be friends with Tomasz, Cameron might agree with him on certain things but to say he’s being controlled by him is nonsense imo and quite insulting to Cameron insinuating he hasn’t got his own mind or the capability to come to his own conclusions, which he has shown many times to not be the case.

Lewis literally told him not to do something tonight

Cameron was having fun, Lewis told Cameron not to do it and now all of a sudden Cameron doesn't want to do it

You're completely blind if you don't see the influence he has over cameron

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Liam-

If that was truly the case then Cameron would have evicted Akeem, he wouldn’t be getting close to Akeem and he’d no longer be friends with Tomasz, Cameron might agree with him on certain things but to say he’s being controlled by him is nonsense imo and quite insulting to Cameron insinuating he hasn’t got his own mind or the capability to come to his own conclusions, which he has shown many times to not be the case.

[rusticgal]

Let's not forget..this was a suggestion in a SUGGESTION BOX...no one was telling anyone what to do or not to do. It was no different from Sian suggesting they clean up after themselves?...doesn't mean everyone has to do it..or will do it.
Then you get Akeem suggesting everyone say something nice to each other everyday.....pass the sick bucket.

[elliebrew]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I disagree. Cameron may be 18. but mentally he's very strong. He's not the kind of person to let anyone tell him what to do.

Maybe not told, but manipulated he certainly has been

He drove a massive wedge between Cian and Cameron because he decided Cians admission was wrong

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

Maybe not told, but manipulated he certainly has been

He drove a massive wedge between Cian and Cameron because he decided Cians admission was wrong

cameron has been uncomfortable with cian, because he told him he fancied him.

[EllieBrownFan]

Lewis himself says he’s a hypocrite even Cameron I don’t get why people try to defend him and say he’s not.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

Lewis literally told him not to do something tonight

Cameron was having fun, Lewis told Cameron not to do it and now all of a sudden Cameron doesn't want to do it

You're completely blind if you don't see the influence he has over cameron

He was literally laughing and joking as he was saying that, he said it sounds wrong coming from him, Cian said the exact same thing, where’s your outrage over him saying it? Even after Lewis And Cian said that he still did it again, so your point is factually incorrect.

I’m not blind to anything he does, I will and have, on my occasions, happily point out when Lewis does something wrong, in this instance, I think your entire point has been completely dramatised because you don’t like him.

[elliebrew]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

cameron has been uncomfortable with cian, because he told him he fancied him.

Cameron would never have reacted like that if Lewis hadn't told Cameron it was wrong

Cameron would have laughed it off. As it should have been

Lewis decided it was a big deal so Cameron decided it was a big deal

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

Lewis literally told him not to do something tonight

Cameron was having fun, Lewis told Cameron not to do it and now all of a sudden Cameron doesn't want to do it

You're completely blind if you don't see the influence he has over cameron

Cameron obviously has a lot of respect for him. However if Cameron was so heavily influenced he wouldn't have got rid of Isabella.

[elliebrew]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Cameron obviously has a lot of respect for him. However if Cameron was so heavily influenced he wouldn't have got rid of Isabella.

Hey got rid of Isabella because he was jealous of her and Lewis

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

Cameron would never have reacted like that if Lewis hadn't told Cameron it was wrong

Cameron would have laughed it off. As it should have been

Lewis decided it was a big deal so Cameron decided it was a big deal

No Elliebrew you are wrong...Caneron wasn't happy with Cian...even when he said it. Cameron told Lewis this when he relayed the story and Lewis agreed.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

Hey got rid of Isabella because he was jealous of her and Lewis

So he did it off his own back...and wasn't influenced or brainwashed by Lewis as you seem to keep implying.

[Jules82]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

What's making me hate him is utter blindness that his fans are showing

If they admitted his wrong doings instead of justifying them I wouldn't dislike him as much

He's an interesting character but he's no messiah

He's a narcisstic hypocrite who has one rule for himself and one rule for everyone else

His ego is in the stratosphere

It is a sad state of affairs if one hates (strong word, they will all be forgotten in a week or two lol) because of HMs fans remarks. In a debate one shouldnt really have to point out the negative but just debate it and put the positives forward. We all know, I am sure, that noone is perfect. There are many people who will have put good money on either saving or evicting a HM (not me) I am sure they are not going to fall into the trap of HM haters, those who take the game so serious that it comes down to insulting to get their point across. Not a good debate imo. The idea is to get others on ones side

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

No Elliebrew you are wrong...Caneron wasn't happy with Cian...even when he said it. Cameron told Lewis this when he relayed the story and Lewis agreed.

That's correct. They're fine now, but at the time Cameron was very uncomfortable with Cian.

[Jules82]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

That's correct. They're fine now, but at the time Cameron was very uncomfortable with Cian.

Definitely, he did tell Cian so.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

Lewis talks non stop about snakes and reptiles and being pissed
Off at everything and slagging everyone off

Have any housemates tried to silence him?

No they respect who he is

That is true actually.

[GoldHeart]

Don't forget nobody must ever disagree or criticise saint Lewis . Afterall it's his house and his rules .

[Jules82]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

Cameron would never have reacted like that if Lewis hadn't told Cameron it was wrong

Cameron would have laughed it off. As it should have been

Lewis decided it was a big deal so Cameron decided it was a big deal

Cameron definitely has a mind of his own, he isnt influenced by anyone and he will speak out. He was embarrassed most definitely. Watching his introduction VT he hasnt altered much inasmuch as he said he was moody etc., etc.