[Swan]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

I am saying that no one without professional qualifications should even try to call anyone's health problems, let alone diagnose them by watching edited clips of a TV programme

Ok that is fair, but BIB - I don't think he has mental health problems, so im not trying to call them. Im saying it's worrying that people try to excuse his vile behaviour. Even when they see with their own eyes what a nob he is being, some sort of spin is put on it.

Did he look anxious and paranoid when smirking behind Zoe at Hussain as she fought his battle for him? Could he not see how distressed his 'friend' was getting, how she was actually risking being ejected when almost becoming physically violent? I guess he let it play because he was having a panic attack or something.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Swan

Ok that is fair, but BIB - I don't think he has mental health problems, so im not trying to call them. Im saying it's worrying that people try to excuse his vile behaviour. Even when they see with their own eyes what a nob he is being, some sort of spin is put on it.

Did he look anxious and paranoid when smirking behind Zoe at Hussain as she fought his battle for him? Could he not see how distressed his 'friend' was getting, how she was actually risking being ejected when almost becoming physically violent? I guess he let it play because he was having a panic attack or something.

I'm still amazed that Zoe wasn't ejected after that.

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by Swan

Ok that is fair, but BIB - I don't think he has mental health problems, so im not trying to call them. Im saying it's worrying that people try to excuse his vile behaviour. Even when they see with their own eyes what a nob he is being, some sort of spin is put on it.

Did he look anxious and paranoid when smirking behind Zoe at Hussain as she fought his battle for him? Could he not see how distressed his 'friend' was getting, how she was actually risking being ejected when almost becoming physically violent? I guess he let it play because he was having a panic attack or something.

Isn't it all in the perception though

I saw exactly the same thing and thought he did exactly the right thing.

By reacting to Hussain in anyway, he was feeding him and doing exactly what he wanted but by using restraint, he didn't bite, but laughed at him.

He wasn't having an anxiety attack at the time, they are sporadic and are usually when his voice gets higher and he speaks at top speed. We have seen them enough to recognize when they happen. They also happen when he gets upset and quite honestly although we can see what goes on, who is qualified to judge if they are real or not. I am sure they seem real to him.

He was remiss in not thanking Zoe later for her actions on his behalf, if he didn't but again, we didn't see if he did but he should have.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

Isn't it all in the perception though

I saw exactly the same thing and thought he did exactly the right thing.

By reacting to Hussain in anyway, he was feeding him and doing exactly what he wanted but by using restraint, he didn't bite, but laughed at him.

He wasn't having an anxiety attack at the time, they are sporadic and are usually when his voice gets higher and he speaks at top speed. We have seen them enough to recognize when they happen. They also happen when he gets upset and quite honestly although we can see what goes on, who is qualified to judge if they are real or not. I am sure they seem real to him.

He was remiss in not thanking Zoe later for her actions on his behalf, if he didn't but again, we didn't see if he did but he should have.

You have contradicted yourself so much right there. You are stating that he is/does suffer from anxiety attacks, then right at the end with the disclaimer. You were calling me out on assuming he's not mentally ill, whereas you are stating as fact that he is.

Also, im sure they seem like a good way to excuse his appalling behaviour.

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by Swan

You have contradicted yourself so much right there. You are stating that he is/does suffer from anxiety attacks, then right at the end with the disclaimer. You were calling me out on assuming he's not mentally ill, whereas you are stating as fact that he is.

Also, im sure they seem like a good way to excuse his appalling behaviour.

I am saying nothing of the sort. His bad behaviour is when a anxiety attack isn't present isn't good and I have said so many times.

He has said he has these attacks and we have witnessed these. I do not think anyone should be criticized when they occur.

These attacks are a condition, mentally ill is a too serious term to describe it and by unqualified laymen.