[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the volume of people coming over in boats has increased dramatically hence the attention it's getting now, i thought that was obvious

It's ok to align with the EDL and BNP if a perceived problem exists? The historical excuse of all regimes that want to harm minority groups is to play on a crisis.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Every media channel is now reporting on this crisis so well done to nigel farage for highlighting this awful problem

[arista]

Chris Philp MP
just spoke live on SkyNewsHD
in Paris.
He is making new funds to cut this route.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It's time to declare an emergency in the Channel
Real Australia-style action needs to come soon, as taxpayers know what is
going on is unacceptable and amounts to a national humiliation



Chris Philp, the Government’s minister for immigration compliance, would like voters to believe that he has begun to take the topic of illegal migrants crossing the Channel seriously. Responding to the recent record numbers who repeatedly attempt to make this unlawful journey onto UK shores, he spoke of them facing “real consequences”.

Such language is clearly designed to make everybody think that a change in policy is coming. Exactly a year ago, however, Boris Johnson made similar comments, claiming that illegal immigrants would be returned to France. Yet consider the latest statistics: there were 235 arrivals on Thursday; 146 on Friday; and 150 on Saturday.

All statements on this urgent matter will remain hollow and meaningless until there is real political action, and it needs to come soon. I have spent much of the lockdown period investigating illegal immigration via the Channel. It is a practical matter, whatever anybody says.

The rest of the article is below

Spoiler:

In the face of the kind of unwarranted abuse to which I have become accustomed, I predicted that there would be a summer invasion. With up to 4,000 people logged officially this year already, who can say I was wrong?

Taxpayers are becoming increasingly vexed about this issue. They know it is unacceptable at every level. They also realise that it amounts to a national humiliation. Of all the reasons for voting Brexit in 2016, the desire for Britain to control its borders properly was the single thing that increased turnout at the referendum and resulted in the Leave vote.

Now I will make another prediction. The media will – finally – turn its attention to the next phase of this story: four-star hotels all over the country housing immigrants at an estimated cost to the public purse of £4 billion over the next decade. There can be little doubt that the political problems for the Government will worsen unless the nettle is grasped quickly.

Chris Philp has also stated that there are “legislative, legal and operational barriers” to progress. In this he is right, but the problem is not insurmountable. The traffickers in Calais continue in their illegal trade for two main reasons. First, not enough individuals who have made it to Britain by these means have been returned this year, meaning others know it is worth paying the money and taking the chance.

The second reason is that the final Brexit deal may make 2020 the last year that such crossings are possible. As a result of the UK being in the transition period, the EU’s Dublin regulations still apply.

The upshot of this is that the practice of an individual claiming refugee status in the first safe country they reach has been turned on its head. We are now in a situation where what might be called “asylum shopping” has been allowed to take hold in which – under EU rules – the UK is favoured as an ultimate destination over France because of the extraordinary generosity shown by this country to illegal immigrants.

I would argue in the strongest terms that Britain cannot afford to wait until January 2021 for any rule changes to come into force. The time has come already to declare an emergency. This would be far better than sending a few Royal Navy vessels into the Channel where, as things stand, they would simply join the Border Force and RNLI in becoming a taxi service.

The real answer to this problem lies with following the lead provided by the government of Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott several years ago. Like Abbott’s administration, Boris Johnson needs to make it clear that nobody who enters Britain illegally having arrived via France will qualify for refugee status. This is the only realistic solution. Naturally the human rights legal lobby, the United Nations, and those in our society who are soft-headed would cry foul at this. The voting public would cheer the government to the rafters, though. People know that stopping this illegal trade is not just about satisfying public opinion on border controls. Neither is it simply about spending billions of pounds of taxpayers’ money on services which those same taxpayers rely, instead of funding tens of thousands of people who have never paid into the system. No, it is also about national security.

The vast majority of those who come to Britain illegally are young men about whom very little is known. The chances of them integrating into British society and sharing British values are, in most cases, remote. And it is likely that some of them will be active sympathisers with Isil and other extremist groups, as other European nations can testify

Unless Johnson acts quickly, one of his chief legacies will be to have stored up a huge problem for the future of this country. Does he really want to be remembered for this?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...gency-channel/

[The Slim Reaper]

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/po...dencies/11/06/

Letter resurfaces from Nigel Farage’s schooldays warning of “racist” and “fascist” tendencies
The letter expressed concerns about his "publicly professed neo-facist views" - warning that he was prone to singing Hitler youth songs.

Spoiler:

A letter addressed to Nigel Farage’s school master in 1981 has resurfaced on social media.

The sternly written correspondence signalled early warnings about his neo-fascist tendencies – warning that he was prone to singing Hitler youth songs.

Farage was a pupil at Dulwich college in South London, one of Britain’s most prestigious schools.

In June 2918, English teacher Chloe Deakin begged head teacher David Emms to reconsider his decision to appoint him as a prefect.

Deakin did not know Farage personally but her letter includes an account of what was said by staff at their annual meeting, held a few days earlier, to discuss new prefects.

The letter says that when one teacher said Farage was “a fascist, but that was no reason why he would not make a good prefect,” there was “considerable reaction” from colleagues.

The letter continues: “Another colleague, who teaches the boy, described his publicly professed racist and neo-fascist views; and he cited a particular incident in which Farage was so offensive to a boy in his set, that he had to be removed from the lesson.

[The Slim Reaper]

[The Slim Reaper]

There's a real divide in the country between those that care and those that don't.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

There's a real divide in the country between those that care and those that don't.

...well it’s only going to get more and more divided, I think...a recession will cause that......

[Captain.Remy]

Welcome and congrats to all the people arriving safely today!

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

Welcome and congrats to all the people arriving safely today!

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[joeysteele]

It's quite a telling poll.
How many were asked however.

Quite telling CON voters and Leave voters have not much or no sympathy.
Sounds about right,( possibly not on just this issue even as to that).

Is the question as to sympathy or no sympathy at them taking risks crossing or as to the human beings themselves?

Would be interesting to see both those points put to these participants of this poll.

Although, only my view, NOT FACT, before I'm jumped on.
I personally doubt the result would be much different.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

It's quite a telling poll.
How many were asked however.

Quite telling CON voters and Leave voters have not much or no sympathy.
Sounds about right,( possibly not on just this issue even that).

Is the question as to sympathy or no sympathy at them taking risks crossing or as to the human beings themselves?

Would be interesting to see both those points out to these participants of this poll.

Although, only my view, NOT FACT, before I'm jumped on.
I personally doubt the result would be much different.

It's yougov, which is normally around 1500-2000 I think, and it is tory owned, but it doesn't seem especially off to me, when we look at the brexit results, and the fact legal immigration sent them into a tizzy, never mind brown people arriving in dinghies,

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

It's yougov, which is normally around 1500-2000 I think, and it is tory owned, but it doesn't seem especially off to me, when we look at the brexit results, and the fact legal immigration sent them into a tizzy, never mind brown people arriving in dinghies,

Yes, sounds right that Slim Reaper.

[bots]

i have no sympathy for immigrants travelling from france illegally, they have no reason to be doing it, they are safe in France.

I am getting angry at that viewpoint being considered racist, it's not

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i have no sympathy for immigrants travelling from france illegally, they have no reason to be doing it, they are safe in France.

I am getting angry at that viewpoint being considered racist, it's not

They are asylum seekers, not immigrants.

So should all of the worlds asylum seekers stop in France? If you lived in France, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be saying they're safe here, so they should stay here.

[Ammi]

...asylum seekers are entitled to have their cases looked at and decided upon...not all will be allowed to stay anyway and maybe only a small minority are...I don’t know the percentages...and if they are given leave to remain, they get quite basic allowances while work is being looked for etc...we don’t know why someone would come to the U.K. as opposed to France...maybe they have family in the U.K., so it would make sense this being their destination country...

[The Slim Reaper]

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i have no sympathy for immigrants travelling from france illegally, they have no reason to be doing it, they are safe in France.

I am getting angry at that viewpoint being considered racist, it's not

The patriarchy is alive and well in this issue, I wonder would the sentiment be the same if it were boatloads of young white men leaving their vulnerable family members behind

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Cherie

The patriarchy is alive and well in this issue, I wonder would the sentiment be the same if it were boatloads of young white men leaving their vulnerable family members behind

I think the right wingers would be far more accepting of white people yes

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Cherie

The patriarchy is alive and well in this issue, I wonder would the sentiment be the same if it were boatloads of young white men leaving their vulnerable family members behind

Patriarchy? What does that mean in the context of opinions in this thread? This thread is mostly page after page of anti asylum seeker bs, but a few dissenting posts equals what exactly?

Of course it would be the same if young, white, men, women, and children were fleeing the conditions that these people are. It's not the brown skin that makes them worthy of assistance, it's the fact we caused a lot of these problems, and they're people, not trash or parasites, or an invading force.

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i have no sympathy for immigrants travelling from France illegally, they have no reason to be doing it, they are safe in France.

I am getting angry at that viewpoint being considered racist, it's not

Good Points

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I think the right wingers would be far more accepting of white people yes

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Patriarchy? What does that mean in the context of opinions in this thread? This thread is mostly page after page of anti asylum seeker bs, but a few dissenting posts equals what exactly?

Of course it would be the same if young, white, men, women, and children were fleeing the conditions that these people are. It's not the brown skin that makes them worthy of assistance, it's the fact we caused a lot of these problems, and they're people, not trash or parasites, or an invading force.

Lol it’s not women and children fleeing France though is it, that’s my point it’s boatloads of young fit men who have the edge because of their gender

Again, I will reiterate, we need to be taking families and vulnerable people from camps and every boatload arriving illegally means less of that happening

[Ammi]

...I read an article quite recently that said the percentage of young adult men seeking asylum had stayed pretty flat in its figures for the last 10 years...and it’s a lower percentage of granted asylum as it is with families...I guess there will always be working age males though who would be looking to work and send money to their families in their home country...and hope for them to join them in the future as well...I don’t know if that’s the case...but we don’t see all ‘arrivals’ of those seeking asylum in the U.K. and then there is a whole, lengthy process to go through and we don’t know who is granted and who isn’t...many, many will be turned away and will return to their home countries, I would think...Nigel Farage has just so, so much to answer for...while he sits there with his glass of Port and cigar, or whatever he does...

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...I read an article quite recently that said the percentage of young adult men seeking asylum had stayed pretty flat in its figures for the last 10 years...and it’s a lower percentage of granted asylum as it is with families...I guess there will always be working age males though who would be looking to work and send money to their families in their home country...and hope for them to join them in the future as well...I don’t know if that’s the case...but we don’t see all ‘arrivals’ of those seeking asylum in the U.K. and then there is a whole, lengthy process to go through and we don’t know who is granted and who isn’t...many, many will be turned away and will return to their home countries, I would think...Nigel Farage has just so, so much to answer for...while he sits there with his glass of Port and cigar, or whatever he does...

if that is the case why are they not seeking to settle and work in many of the safe countries they have travelled through? if my family was depending on me why would I risk my life crossing the channel to spend months awaiting processing, makes no sense to me anyway

I feel sorry for those that have families here though from what I have seen reported it tends to be cousins and more extended family rather than immediate family

The BBC followed a family in a camp in Syria for a year, it was so uplifting to see that family fjnally being brought to the UK and settled in a home, and ready to integrate into the community, and the opportunity for their girls to start school

[Captain.Remy]

A new day of people arriving, congrats for making it through guys! A little bit of love for them!