[Nicky91]

new refugees soon incoming towards UK, maybe US too

from Belarus, those who are anti-lukashenko


is what i predict

[Nicky91]

but anyway i am also against that same anti-immigrant attitude from my parents

i just mean, we do not know what they have experienced like in their own countries, our own privileges and no i am not talking about class now, but of course it is always better in countries like UK, USA, Netherlands, scandinavian ones like Norway, Sweden

i just am fed up by that xenophobia, hatred towards immigrants by now, and the ''crime excuse'' well if there weren't immigrants there would still be crime so

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

but anyway i am also against that same anti-immigrant attitude from my parents

i just mean, we do not know what they have experienced like in their own countries, our own privileges and no i am not talking about class now, but of course it is always better in countries like UK, USA, Netherlands, scandinavian ones like Norway, Sweden

i just am fed up by that xenophobia, hatred towards immigrants by now, and the ''crime excuse'' well if there weren't immigrants there would still be crime so

There would be less crime...and that is a FACT...and far less violent crime towards women.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

what facts? any evidence to back this up?

A lot of them come from cultures where abuse towards women and gays is, if not the norm, then a blind eye is turned.

That aside, poverty leads to crime. Depending on how much money the young men paid the traffickers lol, they're unlikely to be rich...

[Captain.Remy]

Rise and shine, welcome to newcomers today!

[arista]

Capt. Remy
Sort your Criminal Gangs out.

Migrant, 16, found dead on beach in Calais

https://news.sky.com/story/sudanese-...alais-12052342

[Oliver_W]

Sad. Hopefully this will be a hint to France that failing to stop people from trying to cross the Channel costs lives.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Sad. Hopefully this will be a hint to France that failing to stop people from trying to cross the Channel costs lives.

Cost lives? ... they didnt die in the water they were murdered. You're victim blaming by saying if they werent there they wouldnt have been murdered, can you hear how messed up that sounds? It should be a hint to us to stop dehumanising people, as that's the real problem and your post makes that very clear.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Cost lives? ... they didnt die in the water they were murdered. You're victim blaming by saying if they werent there they wouldnt have been murdered, can you here how messed up that sounds? It should be a hint to us to stop dehumanising people, as that is the real problem and your post makes that very clear.

Murdered?

There's no victim blaming, no-one forced them to make an unsanctioned and unneeded crossing of a dangerous body of water.

No-one's dehumanising anyone, France should keep those humans from trying to cross the Channel.

[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

No-one's dehumanising anyone, France should keep those humans from trying to cross the Channel.

Well, you wanted to get of the EU, now deal with it. Clearly the migrants want to get to the UK, I can't see why France should be the one to blame for the UK being so attractive to asylum seekers. France is saying that since you don't want to deal with then EU system, then it's your problem. We love freedom here, we let people go where they want. That doesn't prevent from trying to fight gangs and criminal activities, but the French authorities won't put more money there. And it's not just France tbh. The migrants don't come FROM France, but crossed the country too. If anything it should be EU countries that have borders with non-EU countries you might want to blame.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

Well, you wanted to get of the EU, now deal with it. Clearly the migrants want to get to the UK, I can't see why France should be the one to blame for the UK being so attractive to asylum seekers. France is saying that since you don't want to deal with then EU system, then it's your problem. We love freedom here, we let people go where they want. That doesn't prevent from trying to fight gangs and criminal activities, but the French authorities won't put more money there. And it's not just France tbh. The migrants don't come FROM France, but crossed the country too. If anything it should be EU countries that have borders with non-EU countries you might want to blame.

It's counties that start destabilising illegal wars that are to blame.

[arista]

France has taken 41 Illegal Migrants back
they saved them.

The Weather has changed
Storm Ellen



The Dead Sudan migrant found on French beach
could not swim.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-53835374

France blames the Criminal Smugglers

[arista]

[Beso]

Originally Posted by arista

If the people they are working together with are the people in the hotels, then it makes sense to bring them here and pay for them, just as long as they provide info on these gangs.

[arista]

Originally Posted by parmnion

If the people they are working together with are the people in the hotels, then it makes sense to bring them here and pay for them, just as long as they provide info on these gangs.

Yes the Criminal Smuggler Gangs
are not being stopped, yet.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes the Criminal Smuggler Gangs
are not being stopped, yet.

You would think that would be very easy for the French and all thier expertise to sort out...non?

[Liam-]

This is what this country is dealing with, blood thirsty racists, stirred up by the likes of Farage and other right wing melts, it’s ****ing disgraceful.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Liam-

This is what this country is dealing with, blood thirsty racists, stirred up by the likes of Farage and other right wing melts, it’s ****ing disgraceful.

some grim comments there

[arista]

"This is what this country is dealing with, blood thirsty racists"


Of course the internet is wide
with all views.

But why post that when — its not on National TV news

[Liam-]

Didn’t realise it had to be on the news to be relevent?

[arista]

[arista]

[arista]

[Tom4784]

It's a tragedy but sadly the UK has mostly been conditioned to see asylum seekers as vermin less worthy of life than us so there won't be much sympathy for the kid. Maybe if they were a white child the reaction would be different but certainly not for someone from Sudan.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's a tragedy but sadly the UK has mostly been conditioned to see asylum seekers as vermin less worthy of life than us so there won't be much sympathy for the kid. Maybe if they were a white child the reaction would be different but certainly not for someone from Sudan.

The sad thing is Dezzy.
As what you point out is really sadly accurate.

There has been a conditioning of presenting immigrants and asylum seekers as vermin and undesirable threats to the UK.

It's worrying that in areas of the UK people have appeared to have taken that conditioning on too.

Strong point.