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Parmy · 21-07-2021, 07:15 AM

Put them all in jail.

arista · 21-07-2021, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by parmnion

Put them all in jail.

Yes in Parliament that was Voted in.
So soon they can be Jailed.

arista · 21-07-2021, 11:06 AM

['Call in the military!': Ex-chief immigration officer
says Border Force is 'operating a migrant collection
service in the Channel' after Calais MP
warns Priti's £54m deal WON'T work - as dozens
more arrive today]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...wont-work.html

arista · 22-07-2021, 11:42 AM

arista · 22-07-2021, 06:13 PM

Another 175 Illegal Migrants have
crossed from France today.

Captain.Remy · 22-07-2021, 06:39 PM

The French not giving a single **** anymore since Brexit.

ThomasC · 22-07-2021, 07:05 PM

I wonder why the numbers are so high lately.

I reckon either news just focusing on it more, or because weather been so good calmer seas.

Or both.

Captain.Remy · 22-07-2021, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ThomasC

I wonder why the numbers are so high lately.

I reckon either news just focusing on it more, or because weather been so good calmer seas.

Or both.

Because the pandemic hits harder poorer people and makes their life even more miserable in their country than it was before.

ThomasC · 23-07-2021, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

Because the pandemic hits harder poorer people and makes their life even more miserable in their country than it was before.

When a lot are criminals? Economic immigrants

Come on let's not be silly.

They would have docked in the first safe country otherwise.

I have no issue whatsoever to someone who is that desperate they feel they have to pay £5,000 for a very dangerous crossing...I empathise. Yes, they should go down legal routes, but that is easier said than done if you really feel your life is in danger..... The issue is that this isn't always the case.

Christmas Dynasnow · 23-07-2021, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ThomasC

I wonder why the numbers are so high lately.

I reckon either news just focusing on it more, or because weather been so good calmer seas.

Or both.

the weather and in times before they stowed away on lorries but that now has been stopped so the easy way for the traffickers is boats

and lets not pretend this is a criminal racket using gullible people who have been hoodwinked by criminals gangs

but the people on the boats do know they are also breaking uk LAW

ThomasC · 23-07-2021, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

the weather and in times before they stowed away on lorries but that now has been stopped so the easy way for the traffickers is boats

and lets not pretend this is a criminal racket using gullible people who have been hoodwinked by criminals gangs

but the people on the boats do know they are also breaking uk LAW

Yes, that makes sense.

Captain.Remy · 23-07-2021, 09:53 AM

"They would have". Sure, Jan. Because you lived the immigrant life so well to speak on their behalf. And I am sure you have proper data to back the "a lot are criminals" and not based on articles Arista is posting.
Anyway.

arista · 23-07-2021, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

"They would have". Sure, Jan. Because you lived the immigrant life so well to speak on their behalf. And I am sure you have proper data to back the "a lot are criminals" and not based on articles Arista is posting.
Anyway.

You are wrong photographs are the Truth.

The Minister for Calais
(who said they are leaving all over the coast of the French side)
was live on Farage last night
GBnewsHD

He was told how a French Police ship
near the coast
did nothing to stop a boat full of Illegal Migrants
in low waters, leaving the French side.

Thats the Problem
YOU take our £54million
and are too slow to make changes,

Captain.Remy · 23-07-2021, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by arista

You are wrong photographs are the Truth.

The Minister for Calais
(who said they are leaving all over the coast of the French side)
was live on Farage last night
GBnewsHD

He was told how a French Police ship
near the coast
did nothing to stop a boat full of Illegal Migrants
in low waters, leaving the French side.

Thats the Problem
YOU take our £54million
and are too slow to make changes,

arista, that has got nothing to do with my post and you are way too clever to pretend a bunch of photographs hold the truth. You know and I know that well collected data is the source. So before anyone thinks there are "a lot" of criminals on these boats, there better be some back up for it. We are talking about people here.

ThomasC · 23-07-2021, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

arista, that has got nothing to do with my post and you are way too clever to pretend a bunch of photographs hold the truth. You know and I know that well collected data is the source. So before anyone thinks there are "a lot" of criminals on these boats, there better be some back up for it. We are talking about people here.

What about the data that isn't collected?

Yes, we are talking about people here.

And I defended those who are seeking asylum from persecution etc. I also said that if that was the case and you were that desperate that you would stop at the first safe country you arrived at.

The Slim Reaper · 23-07-2021, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

arista, that has got nothing to do with my post and you are way too clever to pretend a bunch of photographs hold the truth. You know and I know that well collected data is the source. So before anyone thinks there are "a lot" of criminals on these boats, there better be some back up for it. We are talking about people here.

Easy, tiger

arista · 23-07-2021, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

arista, that has got nothing to do with my post and you are way too clever to pretend a bunch of photographs hold the truth. You know and I know that well collected data is the source. So before anyone thinks there are "a lot" of criminals on these boats, there better be some back up for it. We are talking about people here.

Yes we can not afford them.
France is far bigger than the UK
you must house them
give them jobs (that you do not like)

And we will, in the end,
pay
France for every Illegal we return
(Future Plan)

Captain.Remy · 23-07-2021, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista

Yes we can not afford them.
France is far bigger than the UK
you must house them
give them jobs (that you do not like)

And we will, in the end,
pay
France for every Illegal we return
(Future Plan)

It's not France's fault UK is more attractive than France in those people's eyes. You should be grateful about it.

Christmas Dynasnow · 26-07-2021, 08:02 PM

great words

Youtube video

Christmas Dynasnow · 29-07-2021, 07:02 PM

Youtube video

ThomasC · 23-07-2021, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

"They would have". Sure, Jan. Because you lived the immigrant life so well to speak on their behalf. And I am sure you have proper data to back the "a lot are criminals" and not based on articles Arista is posting.
Anyway.

Well tell me the reasons as to why they wouldn't?

If you are that afraid for your life.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...)%20population.

"Albanian nationals make up the largest number of foreign national offenders in UK prisons, totalling 16% of the foreign national offenders (FNO) population."

Look at the pictures, where's all the women and children?

Anyway, what?

ThomasC · 23-07-2021, 11:58 AM

To deny that some of these people don't come here to cause crime, gang rivalry, take benefits etc is just naive in my opinion.

Saying that it doesn't happen or the data doesn't suggest that is just silly. We're so PC which could be the reason the data is not supplied or it's just too hard to gather. They're illegal for a reason so it's going to be difficult to track these things.

I even empathised earlier on about how someone would feel that in danger they felt they had to seek aslyum illegally and not through the proper channels..........BUT I don't sympathise with those who do it for other reasons, I also don't think we should be paying to have them brought onto our shores when they have bypassed a safe country already.

Captain.Remy · 23-07-2021, 12:08 PM

When did I deny that some come here to cause crime? I asked for data to back up the "A lot of".

Again, the "a lot of" is subjective compared to total illegal immigrants that are stopped at the borders.
And again, "Albanian nationals make up the largest number of foreign national offenders in UK prisons, totalling 16% of the foreign national offenders (FNO) population." A part of it probably entered the UK with a legal status. So we're not just talking about illegal immigration here. Again, not saying it does not exist but let's try to be more neutral.

Also, the "if you were that desperate that you would stop at the first safe country you arrived at." act is tired. You don't know these people. You don't live their lives. They risk their lives to get to UK for a reason, possibly because of the language or because they already have family there. Don't try to put yourself in their shoes giving uncoherent advice.

arista · 23-07-2021, 10:53 PM

Parmy · 24-07-2021, 07:50 PM

I would send navy ships to france, and ask everyone to come to the boat, then vet everyone who has boarded, carry them all back to the uk, and then make a decision..

2 boats like tilbury and woolwich..

Anyone trying to cross on a dingy afterword, should be judged as terrorist like.

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