[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I think she is a lot stronger than most people thought,fair play to her for sticking to her guns, she obviously thinks she has the best deal for us, so good on her for not caving in to the pressure she is under from her ministers, they are such a back stabbing lot, Why would she put herself through all this if the deal is not the best she can get.

You and I stand on poles apart opposite political sides.
However what you say I always look at.

I will concede she was given the hardest job to do.
Re brexit.
However she could have brought all parties and UK Nations into the planning to heal divisions but chose not to.

Sometimes sticking to your guns is a bad thing.
She has gone as far as her stance can take this and she has not won over her own party with her deal.
It won't pass the parliamentary vote as it is and she wouldn't be then sticking to her guns, if she went for changes now.

To push ahead with this agreement when she knows a quarter at least of her own government will abstain or vote against it, is pure folly in my view.

To step out now, saying she'd done her best and let a new PM make a new attempt.
Would be far wiser than putting this to a vote, losing it and then not being able to do anything further.

Prolonging the killing off of this agreement via a parliamentary vote with all the warnings that will happen.
That's really bad judgement by any standards.

She got the job at the wrong time, unfortunately for her.
Then again as I say, I've never liked her as a politician even in my.more Conservative leaning years.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

You and I stand on poles apart opposite political sides.
However what you say I always look at.

I will concede she was given the hardest job to do.
Re brexit.
However she could have brought all parties and UK Nations into the planning to heal divisions but chose not to.

Sometimes sticking to your guns is a bad thing.
She has gone as far as her stance can take this and she has not won over her own party with her deal.
It won't pass the parliamentary vote as it is and she wouldn't be then sticking to her guns, if she went for changes now.

To push ahead with this agreement when she knows a quarter at least of her own government will abstain or vote against it, is pure folly in my view.

To step out now, saying she'd done her best and let a new PM make a new attempt.
Would be far wiser than putting this to a vote, losing it and then not being able to do anything further.

Prolonging the killing off of this agreement via a parliamentary vote with all the warnings that will happen.
That's really bad judgement by any standards.

She got the job at the wrong time, unfortunately for her.
Then again as I say, I've never liked her as a politician even in my.more Conservative leaning years.

hey Joey,I just think she has a real hard job,I don't think at this point anybody could appease the British people, I would hate to be her right now,you know much more about politics than I do ,all I am going on is the news and TV ,I just think she has a few tossers around her at the moment,they should be standing strong and not going against her all the time,as I thnk she has probably done the best deal that anyone can.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

hey Joey,I just think she has a real hard job,I don't think at this point anybody could appease the British people, I would hate to be her right now,you know much more about politics than I do ,all I am going on is the news and TV ,I just think she has a few tossers around her at the moment,they should be standing strong and not going against her all the time,as I thnk she has probably done the best deal that anyone can.

You know as much as any of us Kaz, we are all reliant on the TV and the media for our political news

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Cherie

You know as much as any of us Kaz, we are all reliant on the TV and the media for our political news

I would hate her job to be honest Cherie, whatever she does some people will be pissed.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I would hate her job to be honest Cherie, whatever she does some people will be pissed.

No matter what any PM in the current climate does someone will be annoyed and saying they are doing the wrong thing.

Where were all these people who want to be PM now when Cameron stepped down... Boris ran off, never heard of Raab or Esther McVey, they knew they were getting a PM who backed remain so no point crying about it 2 years in

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

hey Joey,I just think she has a real hard job,I don't think at this point anybody could appease the British people, I would hate to be her right now,you know much more about politics than I do ,all I am going on is the news and TV ,I just think she has a few tossers around her at the moment,they should be standing strong and not going against her all the time,as I thnk she has probably done the best deal that anyone can.

No way, Kazanne you know far more about politics than you may think.

Actually I think across the board, the UK has likely never been so ill served by its elected politicians.

It's always good sharing your and my differing perspectives on politics.
Never think you know less re politics.
Politics is life, it affects all our lives, it's just sad once elected many MPs sidestep that fact and choose to forget same.