[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Seriously though, I honestly do understand wanting to wait for the facts before throwing your weight behind something but... that's not what's going on here, and several people seem to be actively trying to come up with theories against the narrative. It's not just "we'll wait and see", is it, if you're actively making it clear that you think it didn't happen. I'm afraid I have to agree that the motivations of several people here seem a bit sinister. If you think there's room for doubt, fair enough say so and then wait for the story to actually unfold... don't say "we should wait for the facts" and then vomit out a load of theories about it being a lie .

It's very telling.