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18-02-2019, 10:54 AM | #51 | |||
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The common narrative is that all 7 left because they couldn't work with the current labour party, for whatever reason. They are also correct in that british politics does have to move forward because what we have now isn't working. It doesn't mean they have an answer, they are just highlighting a problem that everyone is aware of. People do want more choice than what is currently available. Whether that means the majority of MP's become independent or whatever, who knows, but it is high time things changed
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18-02-2019, 11:05 AM | #52 | ||
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The entire system needs changed to be quite honest, it's not just that the main parties are a shambles, the voting patterns and political leanings of the general population are simply diversifying to the point where "First Past The Post" is no longer fit for purpose. We need an entirely different electoral system that involves some variety of PR.
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18-02-2019, 11:06 AM | #53 | |||
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Labour will lose the next election if he stays, no matter how big a mess the Tories make. |
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18-02-2019, 11:11 AM | #54 | |||
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Yes he lost the Last Election but made the Conservatives then had to buy the DUP 's help as it was a close Hung Parliament. |
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18-02-2019, 11:13 AM | #55 | |||
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But somehow, Corbyn grew a shiny halo that just lasted long enough for the snap election to not totally suck for him. |
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18-02-2019, 11:15 AM | #56 | |||
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We had a Vote on that Clegg set that up It Failed. The 7 MP's are not enough This Helps the Conswervatives |
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18-02-2019, 11:18 AM | #57 | |||
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SDP all over again These 7 back benches - do not matter [The Independent Group of MPs is supported by Gemini A Ltd a company limited by guarantee. Registered address: 3rd Floor 1 Ashley Road Altrincham Cheshire WA14 2DT UK] No London Office Last edited by arista; 18-02-2019 at 11:22 AM. |
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18-02-2019, 11:27 AM | #58 | ||
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I'm pretty sure that "somehow" was the Tory party being in incompetent chaos with constant infighting and bickering, and a leader fighting for something that she was campaigning against a year earlier. It's not really a mystery .
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18-02-2019, 11:30 AM | #59 | |||
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Yes I am looking forward to the By Elections of all of them Apart from 2 the rest are not known much. |
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18-02-2019, 11:40 AM | #60 | |||
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[Our economy is underperforming. Too many of us live in poverty, or struggle to make ends meet.]
Thats from the 7 MP's site https://www.theindependent.group/ But its a Labour Line They have no chance - Its a fecking farce SDP all over again Last edited by arista; 18-02-2019 at 11:43 AM. |
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18-02-2019, 01:06 PM | #61 | |||
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18-02-2019, 01:10 PM | #62 | |||
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Its like a UKIP start up, only they are all 7 of them , Remoaners Last edited by arista; 18-02-2019 at 01:13 PM. |
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18-02-2019, 01:15 PM | #63 | |||
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I'm getting the impression that Arista is not entirely happy with this breakaway .... it's very subtle, but it's there none the less
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18-02-2019, 01:19 PM | #64 | |||
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They are Pathetic 2017 Election They all stood for Brexit. I hate Chukka (New Labour) as he was going to be a Leader before Corbyn. But was scared his White Wife would leave him. And then stood down Also None of them are Brave enough for a By Election This MP's Zone want a By Election but he is one of the 7 and is Chicken Last edited by arista; 18-02-2019 at 01:36 PM. |
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18-02-2019, 01:31 PM | #65 | |||
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Only labour can be more unelectable than the current Tories
You couldn't make it up |
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18-02-2019, 01:38 PM | #66 | |||
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This is why loads of Labour MP's are angry as they will be out of power , even longer Last edited by arista; 18-02-2019 at 01:38 PM. |
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18-02-2019, 01:49 PM | #67 | |||
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The problem Labour have
is they have Marxist as a leader Period |
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18-02-2019, 01:53 PM | #68 | ||
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Honestly I reckon if the still had rubbery faced Ed as leader they'd be flying right now. Being a bit weird eating a sandwich and having a bad PR team in general isn't looking so bad, considering.
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18-02-2019, 02:06 PM | #69 | |||
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i reckon if they had a banana in charge rather than Corbyn they would win an election
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18-02-2019, 02:17 PM | #70 | ||
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Good on em.
It was bound to happen.The current iteration of Labour don’t represent the values of many Labour voters. Whether it takes off or not is another story. I don’t think these seven would have done this on their own without having discussed it with other MP’s first. There more than likely will be more to come. |
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18-02-2019, 02:19 PM | #71 | ||
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18-02-2019, 02:22 PM | #72 | |||
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18-02-2019, 02:24 PM | #73 | |||
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and a tweet Lewis Goodall LBC : [Ian Dunt Verified account @IanDunt 6h6 hours ago If I was setting up a new centrist party I'd call it 'Feck The Lot Of You] I changed a letter in the F word. Last edited by arista; 18-02-2019 at 02:32 PM. |
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18-02-2019, 02:33 PM | #74 | |||
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18-02-2019, 02:44 PM | #75 | ||
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Remembering Kerry
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All well said arista. |
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