[LeatherTrumpet]

Trump remains unbothered

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Underscore

Not everyone praises God Bernie Sanders

What does he have to do with what I said chicken?

[Underscore]

Either way IF Sanders won the nomination of course I'm gonna vote for him against fat orange cheeto.

[Wizard.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

That's exactly what people are saying, are you blind?

Discounting candidates for being "pale, male and stale" is NOT supporting "the best candidate who can oust Trump".

But of course you can realise that that's not the whole reason why anyone would not support Bernie Sanders? Maybe Underscore was making a point but I don't think it's a stretch to realise that it was a part of a reason and not a whole one.

[Underscore]

I'm not gonna be ecstatic tho

[Oliver_W]

What ever happened to Nikki Haley, aka the obvious voice for first female president?

[Wizard.]

Originally Posted by Underscore

Either way IF Sanders won the nomination of course I'm gonna vote for him against fat orange cheeto.

Miss Yorkshire voting for the President of the United States of America, we stan!

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Trump remains unbothered

Yup, he can't worry about an election he won't win when Robert Mueller's throwing all his friends in jail and is looking at him next.

[Underscore]

Originally Posted by Riley.

Miss Yorkshire voting for the President of the United States of America, we stan!

not two months into sanders presidency a mueller probe opening up for yorkshire intervention

[montblanc]

Originally Posted by Underscore

Either way IF Sanders won the nomination of course I'm gonna vote for him against fat orange cheeto.

not you voting from england

[Underscore]

Originally Posted by montblanc

not you voting from england

shush i like to live the fantasy

and yorkshire dont wanna be associated with the english pigs

[Underscore]

the real 2020 ticket.

harris president
o'rourke vp

[Liam-]

At the end of the day, the presidency isn’t about representation, it’s supposed to be about what’s best for the country and right now, what’s better for the world, so if an old white man is what the best option is, then so be it.

[LeatherTrumpet]

His 70% taxes are really gonna play well with the electorate

[LeatherTrumpet]

as is the word

socialist

[Wizard.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

At the end of the day, the presidency isn’t about representation, it’s supposed to be about what’s best for the country and right now, what’s better for the world, so if an old white man is what the best option is, then so be it.

Mark my words, come back here in 2020 when Sanders loses and Trump is president again.

[Underscore]

Originally Posted by Riley.

Mark my words, come back here in 2020 when Sanders loses and Trump is president again.

He won't win the nom

[Liam-]

Trump will beat anyone he’s up against lbr

[Liam-]

The electorate system works to his advantage

[Tom4784]

No, I think if Trump even makes it to the election, he'll have a hard time against anyone who isn't a complete idiot or **** up.

Trump used the corruption allegations and the russian email leaks to his advantage to cast doubt on Hillary and bring over a lot of moderate voters to his side but the weapons he used last time will be used against him and he won't be able to do his usual tricks to win over the moderates. His base will always vote for him but that's not enough to win an election especially considering that the polls show that he has lost a lot of support and that the moderates and middle ground voters that came out for him last time probably won't this time.

[Wizard.]

yes

[Wizard.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

No, I think if Trump even makes it to the election, he'll have a hard time against anyone who isn't a complete idiot or **** up.

Trump used the corruption allegations and the russian email leaks to his advantage to cast doubt on Hillary and bring over a lot of moderate voters to his side but the weapons he used last time will be used against him and he won't be able to do his usual tricks to win over the moderates. His base will always vote for him but that's not enough to win an election especially considering that the polls show that he has lost a lot of support and that the moderates and middle ground voters that came out for him last time probably won't this time.

But tell me would moderate voters vote for Bernie or would a centrist have a better shot?

[TomC]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Except it is, he is discounting someone, not on their credentials but on the fact that they are white, male and old.

It's a ridiculous thing to count someone out, not because of their beliefs but because of their attributes. If Underscore knew what he was talking about, he'd realise that Bernie's stances and views would likely match up to his own. Bernie became a favourite of younger voters for a reason but Underscore seemingly refuses to acknowledge that because of Bernie's race, age and gender.

It's pretty damn clear cut and indicative of why I consider myself more centre than left leaning these days. Both the right and left are becoming extreme reflections of each other.

He didn't 'discount' them, he just expressed preference, that the President is of more varied characteristics.

I don't agree with the logic, but it's not 'racist'.

[Brother Leon]

By far the best candidate for America and the rest of the world.


Too little too late though. He should have been the nominee last time. He would have beat Trump.

[Oliver_W]

tbh I also think it's Trump's to lose right now - his SOTU speech was pretty good, and garnered a good response. The democrats also need to work on their image - when Alexandria Occasional Cortex appears in the media, it's just embarrassing; she is their version of Dianne Abbott.