[Crimson Dynamo]

I think we should be more worried about the dramatic and undeniable rise of Anti-Semitism in our own Labour Party

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I think we should be more worried about the dramatic and undeniable rise of Anti-Semitism in our own Labour Party

Not may people are bothered by that, though. It's not fashionable, left of centre. Nor right of centre, thinking about it...

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

its just not a thing, sorry

And you're perfectly entitled to be wrong and uninformed.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I think we should be more worried about the dramatic and undeniable rise of Anti-Semitism in our own Labour Party

Because we can only focus on one issue at a time?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

And you're perfectly entitled to be wrong and uninformed.

or right

as usual

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

or right

as usual

Nope, just uninformed.

You do not know more than security experts from across the world who acknowledge right wing terrorism as a real and present threat. You're entitled to believe it doesn't exist but that doesn't make your opinion correct, it makes it uninformed.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Nope, just uninformed.

You do not know more than security experts from across the world who acknowledge right wing terrorism as a real and present threat. You're entitled to believe it doesn't exist but that doesn't make your opinion correct, it makes it uninformed.

not "security experts"

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Antifa, would be far left terrorism looks like IMO. Terrorism whilst saying they are doing the right thing and helping people. Because they bombed a building full of Tories or something..for example.

Its not a 'both sides are as bad as each other' thing. But nor is Islamic terorrism and far right terrorism (yet, I suspect if we don't do brexit in March then this will rise quickly)

I agree there is not modern far left the same as far right, but I do think this is because the far left is just emerging recently, where the far right have been 'there' for quite some time. I genuinely dread to think what it will be like in say 10 years time.

I get the Antifa point. I don't personally agree with them on everything, especially their direct action, but they were set up as a direct response to the rise in fascism and white supremacy, and to counteract it.

Let me put it like this, if the worrying rise on the right wasn't happening, would Antifa even be in our consciousness? I think it's easy to forget that Antifa rose to prominence again, recently in the US where KKK and white nationalist rallies are constant and deadly. I agree though, there are probably folks within the movement itching far an even more direct response.


Maybe you'll be right about the far left rising, but all the prominent folks that are currently made out to be communists by the right, are only really interested in providing healthcare, education, work opportunities, and an end to social inequality. It's not impossible, because obviously the original aims of Bolshevism were noble too, before being bastardised, but it's a difficult road that travels from Alexandria Ocassio-Cortez (the current right wing boogeywoman) to far left extremism in the same way that it's a pretty short road from right wing politicians to far right extremism.

Another problem I have with the labelling of far left in the UK, is that we haven't even had a left wing party in this country since the inception of "new labour", so having a far left rise without even a left is a difficult thing to envisage.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Livia

I'll ask again... do you think there are people on this forum who support the far Right? Who, "never seem to post news stories that don't reflect well on the ideology they are happy to push on here every day" Because unless you've phrased that wrong, you're clearly saying that Right wingers are on here pushing their agenda every day. And I have to say, while I've seen some awful people on this forum, I don't believe anyone on here now is a far Righter.

I don't want to take the thread in a different direction that becomes about other members, and me making accusations, as that will only achieve deleted posts, infractions/warnings, or a closed thread - none of those things I want to happen, but let me just say that if people label themselves with the labels of the far right, then I'll take them at their word.

[Crimson Dynamo]

What are the numbers then to get back on topic?

yearly deaths etc?

to give us an idea of scale

[Livia]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I don't want to take the thread in a different direction that becomes about other members, and me making accusations, as that will only achieve deleted posts, infractions/warnings, or a closed thread - none of those things I want to happen, but let me just say that if people label themselves with the labels of the far right, then I'll take them at their word.

That's just another insinuation that there are people on here who are on the far Right. And I don't believe there are.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Livia

That's just another insinuation that there are people on here who are on the far Right. And I don't believe there are.

It's not an insinuation of anything; I explicitly said that when people use far right labels to label themselves, then I accept the labels they use. No insinuation necessary.

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by Livia

And I have to say, while I've seen some awful people on this forum, I don't believe anyone on here now is a far Righter.

Those who support the BNP and Tommy Robinson are far right

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

Those who support the BNP and Tommy Robinson are far right

Again... I don't know anyone who supports them. Not really, I don't believe anyone on here would vote for Robinson or the BNP who, incidentally, have only around 500 members in the whole country.

[Matthew.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Again... I don't know anyone who supports them. Not really, I don't believe anyone on here would vote for Robinson or the BNP who, incidentally, have only around 500 members in the whole country.

I’ve definitely seen

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

I’ve definitely seen

Hmmm...

[Twosugars]

Thank you Slim Reaper, a much needed thread.

Wonder what Breitbart makes of this troubling phenomenon.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

It's not an insinuation of anything; I explicitly said that when people use far right labels to label themselves, then I accept the labels they use. No insinuation necessary.

People on here explicitely identify themselves as far right?

[Withano]

Get rid of all right wing people and then there’d be no issue

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by MTVN

People on here explicitely identify themselves as far right?

Some defend every action Trump takes, defend Robinson, praise alt right people like Milo, Bannon etc. That's pretty far right, right?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by MTVN

People on here explicitely identify themselves as far right?

If you check out my deleted posts (not sure if you guys can actually do that), you'll prob find some evidence

[Livia]

No one on here is on the far Right. There are some people on here way over to the Left, but not any far Left, I would say. Any kind of an extremist is a threat and I worry that people are happy to hang labels on other people on the basis of some stuff they may have seen on a Big Brother forum.

[Crimson Dynamo]

as usual the baiters and the haters are here with the usual insinuation but no one has the balls to name a name in case they get a wee infraction

what a surprise, lol

[Crimson Dynamo]

and none with an opinion or comment about the actual thread, just here to cause trouble

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Livia

No one on here is on the far Right. There are some people on here way over to the Left, but not any far Left, I would say. Any kind of an extremist is a threat and I worry that people are happy to hang labels on other people on the basis of some stuff they may have seen on a Big Brother forum.

Regardless, it is about time we debate right wing terrorism alongside all others, I'm sure you'll agree. This thread is much needed.