[The Slim Reaper]

Oh oh, if the facebook ban upsets you, the amazon ban is going to really make you lose your ****.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Oh oh, if the facebook ban upsets you, the amazon ban is going to really make you lose your ****.

No one's upset. Although if it makes you feel a little more virtuous, if that's even possible... you can think we are.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Robinson is a grade a twat, he has been pushing his luck for years. I'm hoping that the posters on here supporting him are trying to be edgy and think they are being funny because if they agree with his bigoted views I will be blocking them right now.

Like the edgy posters who hold Gemma Collins up as a role model?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Robinson held a public event in Salford at the weekend to broadcast his preemptive response to the BBC program, live to 3000 mouthbreathers. He has that same program on YT.

Is this really what people consider as "being silenced?"

He probably promoted that event on Facebook, can't do that anymore. Why? because he's been silenced.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

When you set out the parameters like this you can pretty much hide what you don't want to see. That said, he was recently responsible for a women's rape crisis center receiving abuse and threats from his knuckledraggin' followers (no offence to you).

This poster, aimed at encouraging minority victims of sexual abuse/assault to come forward in communities where family protection and shame often prevent victims from reporting these events. Because of his post, his fanboys bombarded the call line to make threats and prevent any actual victims from being able to get through.

How is Robinson responsible for other people's actions?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Oh oh, if the facebook ban upsets you, the amazon ban is going to really make you lose your ****.

Been burnt as it?

How very fascist.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

He probably promoted that event on Facebook, can't do that anymore. Why? because he's been silenced.

Marcus Garvey organised more than 6 million people, and he died in 1940. I think Robinson should still be able to get his message out. His speech is not prevented, it's just not being given as public a platform (which no one has a right to).

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

Been burnt as it?

How very fascist.

I'm not sure if you understand the difference between burning/banning and a private corporations decision not to sell a product.

Who would step in and force a privately owned company to sell a citizens book? The state? Do you really want to talk about fascist actions in this context?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

How is Robinson responsible for other people's actions?

I partly agree with you here, but are you telling me with his history of acting as a provocateur (I'm trying to be kind), he didn't know how his merry band of troglodyte followers/supporters would react?

If you could provide a post from TR, whereby, upon hearing about the attacks on a woman's rape crisis center (yes, that's really the place that was attacked), he called for cooler heads and to not clog up their phone lines, I'd happily say I may have misjudged his intent with this situation.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

He probably promoted that event on Facebook, can't do that anymore. Why? because he's been silenced.

You're being deliberately ignorant now.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Alf

It doesn't matter how many times you say it's not, I'm telling you it's 100% censorship.

And I'm gonna say that he didn't even post any of these comments, because if he had, they'd be available to see. It's more likely that some other person posted them in his comments section, if they were posted at all.

I'm happy to be proved wrong, if you can.

I've proved that the very idea of calling it censorship is plain wrong, you just believe that if you don't acknowledge that, then it's not true. You'll do the same for anything anyone provides to prove you wrong because you won't accept anything that goes against your world view no matter how factually true it is.

Facts are facts, this is not censorship.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I've proved that the very idea of calling it censorship is plain wrong, you just believe that if you don't acknowledge that, then it's not true. You'll do the same for anything anyone provides to prove you wrong because you won't accept anything that goes against your world view no matter how factually true it is.

Facts are facts, this is not censorship.

He's had the ability to talk to his millions of followers taken away from him. He's been censored.

I will accept things if I'm proven wrong, but on this occasion, I'm right.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

You're being deliberately ignorant now.

Are you still mind reading?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

Are you still mind reading?

You posted it on a public forum honey.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

He's had the ability to talk to his millions of followers taken away from him. He's been censored.

I will accept things if I'm proven wrong, but on this occasion, I'm right.

For breaking the terms of the platforms service.

Do you call getting banned from TiBB for breaking the rules "censorship"?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Alf

He's had the ability to talk to his millions of followers taken away from him. He's been censored.

I will accept things if I'm proven wrong, but on this occasion, I'm right.

Facebook is not a public space where people have the right to freedom of speech. It is a privately owned website that can pick and choose it's content literally however it wants. When you sign up to a Facebook account you agree to the terms of service. I've picked out the relevant parts to save you the trouble.

From Facebook T&Cs

2. What you can share and do on Facebook

We want people to use Facebook to express themselves and to share content that is important to them, but not at the expense of the safety and well-being of others or the integrity of our community. You therefore agree not to engage in the conduct described below (or to facilitate or support others in doing so):

You may not use our Products to do or share anything:

That breaches these Terms, our Community Standards and other Terms and Policies that apply to your use of Facebook.

That is unlawful, misleading, discriminatory or fraudulent.

That infringes or breaches someone else's rights.

You may not upload viruses or malicious code, or do anything that could disable, overburden or impair the proper working or appearance of our Products.

You may not access or collect data from our Products using automated means (without our prior permission) or attempt to access data that you do not have permission to access.

We can remove content that you share in breach of these provisions and, if applicable, we may take action against your account.

The relevant section, if you're wondering, comes under "community standards", which I've also looked up for you. If you want to check for yourself, it's under section 3, "objectionable content";

12. Hate speech

We do not allow hate speech on Facebook because it creates an environment of intimidation and exclusion and in some cases may promote real-world violence.

We define hate speech as a direct attack on people based on what we call protected characteristics – race, ethnicity, national origin, religious affiliation, sexual orientation, caste, sex, gender, gender identity and serious disease or disability. We also provide some protections for immigration status. We define "attack" as violent or dehumanising speech, statements of inferiority, or calls for exclusion or segregation.*

When Tommy created his Facebook account, he ticked a box that said "I agree to these terms and conditions". Do most of us read though them? Of course not. It doesn't matter. He signed a contract, the contract explicitly outlines the reasons ones account might be cancelled, it's there in black and white.

Sorry Alf you've missed the mark this time. It's not censorship. It's a private contact between individual and company that's been broken. They have every right to remove him.

[chuff me dizzy]

Our grandparents died for our freedom of speech ,only for it to be stopped ,but I see the Muslim hate preachers are still spewing their hatred !!

[Mitchell]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Facebook is not a public space where people have the right to freedom of speech. It is a privately owned website that can pick and choose it's content literally however it wants. When you sign up to a Facebook account you agree to the terms of service. I've picked out the relevant parts to save you the trouble.

From Facebook T&Cs



The relevant section, if you're wondering, comes under "community standards", which I've also looked up for you. If you want to check for yourself, it's under section 3, "objectionable content";



When Tommy created his Facebook account, he ticked a box that said "I agree to these terms and conditions". Do most of us read though them? Of course not. It doesn't matter. He signed a contract, the contract explicitly outlines the reasons ones account might be cancelled, it's there in black and white.

Sorry Alf you've missed the mark this time. It's not censorship. It's a private contact between individual and company that's been broken. They have every right to remove him.

This, if he wanted to be on Facebook, maybe he should’ve adhered to the rules.

[arista]

Alf
Tommy
can go on GMBHD itv.
BBCnewsHD , SkyNewsHD,
Ch4HDnews , Ch5HDnews
and all radio.

They could interview him about the ban.
Lets have a proper debate with a Facebook advisor
is on soon.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Our grandparents died for our freedom of speech ,only for it to be stopped ,but I see the Muslim hate preachers are still spewing their hatred !!

Your grandparents died for you to do what you please on Facebook?

How disrespectful to what was actually fought for.

[AnnieK]

Tommy can still say whatever he wants - he just needs to find a new platform on which to do it

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

For breaking the terms of the platforms service.

Do you call getting banned from TiBB for breaking the rules "censorship"?

Ask James if I call that censorship, he'll tell you that I always do.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Your grandparents died for you to do what you please on Facebook?

How disrespectful to what was actually fought for.

Oh shut up Marsh, nt once has chuff mentioned facebook.....you are the disrespectful one here, using chuff dead grandparents to mock her...shame on you.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Facebook is not a public space where people have the right to freedom of speech. It is a privately owned website that can pick and choose it's content literally however it wants. When you sign up to a Facebook account you agree to the terms of service. I've picked out the relevant parts to save you the trouble.

From Facebook T&Cs



The relevant section, if you're wondering, comes under "community standards", which I've also looked up for you. If you want to check for yourself, it's under section 3, "objectionable content";



When Tommy created his Facebook account, he ticked a box that said "I agree to these terms and conditions". Do most of us read though them? Of course not. It doesn't matter. He signed a contract, the contract explicitly outlines the reasons ones account might be cancelled, it's there in black and white.

Sorry Alf you've missed the mark this time. It's not censorship. It's a private contact between individual and company that's been broken. They have every right to remove him.

My argument to that is easy. There terms and conditions mean little, when they're not consistent with their rules and handing out punishment.

Sorry but they're not getting away with being accused of censoring with that old chestnut.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Oh shut up Marsh, nt once has chuff mentioned facebook.....you are the disrespectful one here, using chuff dead grandparents to mock her...shame on you.

So she's either off topic or completely misunderstands what's actually happening.

As do you, so you know, shut up.