[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Jonnii

I find it awful that the majority of people on social media etc are basically just flat-out dismissing the two guy's revelations as lies, regardless of the trial and all that stuff, JUST BECAUSE it's MJ they're accusing. We all know that in terms of these cases, and some more serious, that correct justice does not always prevail.

I'm not saying I believe or disbelieve them, I just don't think anybody would make stuff like this up, especially in such detail and in such a big way like this (regardless of their sketchy behaviour in history [Wade] - which could have been a result OF said abuse), the way in which they've basically been lynched by many is one of the big reasons why abuse victims never come forward, for fear of being called a liar.

I dunno what to think.

And that’s blinded loyalty....people who adored him, awestruck. The very people who discredit two men who at the tender age of 7 were groomed by MJ and adored him but can’t understand their loyalty to him whilst he was alive.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

And that’s blinded loyalty....people who adored him, awestruck. The very people who discredit two men who at the tender age of 7 were groomed by MJ and adored him but can’t understand their loyalty to him whilst he was alive.

I'm a fan, but I am in no way blinded by loyalty,I have just taken time to see and hear both sides of this and so far as much as people condemn him ,no actual proof ,we can call them liars just as people who believe them ,call anyone who believes Jackson etc a liar.

[chuff me dizzy]

Matt Lucas got abuse and a death threat form MJ fans

https://www.entertainmentdaily.co.uk...-jackson-fans/

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I'm a fan, but I am in no way blinded by loyalty,I have just taken time to see and hear both sides of this and so far as much as people condemn him ,no actual proof ,we can call them liars just as people who believe them ,call anyone who believes Jackson etc a liar.

I’m not saying you can’t call them liars...I’ve told you I respect your opinion as I do everybody’s.
We know there is no ‘proof’...just the word of those that have come forward...and the suspiciously bizarre behaviour of an adult man.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I'm a fan, but I am in no way blinded by loyalty,I have just taken time to see and hear both sides of this and so far as much as people condemn him ,no actual proof ,we can call them liars just as people who believe them ,call anyone who believes Jackson etc a liar.

Leaving Neverland is full of biased one sided stories and suspicious editing.

Did you hear about the birthday message ?? , even that they twisted for their own narrative

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Leaving Neverland is full of biased one sided stories and suspicious editing.

Did you hear about the birthday message ?? , even that they twisted for their own narrative

Well of course it’s biased...it’s telling THEIR story and showing us insights of his life that shows behaviour supporting their claim. What did you expect?

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Well of course it’s biased...it’s telling THEIR story and showing us insights of his life that shows behaviour supporting their claim. What did you expect?

The birthday video was filmed months before Wade's birthday .

And they edited out bits

[Beso]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

And that’s blinded loyalty....people who adored him, awestruck. The very people who discredit two men who at the tender age of 7 were groomed by MJ and adored him but can’t understand their loyalty to him whilst he was alive.

fantastic post