[arista]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Read that twitter thread.

I already have

[arista]

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presente...s-brexit-nazi/

8min proper debate,

[arista]

[arista]

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

The only detail you forgot to mention is that Stalinism and Maoism are discredited and irrelevant ideologies whereas nazism and far right are resurgent.

The difference between them is that Germany has owned its grubby past. I don't see anyone on TV spouting Nazi ideology. but Communist ideology is embraced for some reason. Why the Stalin flags at Labour meetings if it's a discredited and irrelevant ideology? And you know, Communism is alive and well in China, Laos, Vietnam...

It's not like anyone is claiming that the far right is good. Far from it. But this thread is about David Lammy… and instead of debate there is example after example of wrongdoing in the Tory party, as if one cancels out the other.

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[Livia]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Well done, the slimmest of reapers for providing some background information.
It looks like Lammy knew what he was talking about.

Background information? LOL......

[LeatherTrumpet]

not one member in a very left wing forum supporting him?

what does that tell you about his troll attention seeking comments?

[joeysteele]

I find David Lammy nauseating.

His comments do nothing constructive and frankly they are pathetic and totally uncalled for.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I find David Lammy nauseating.

His comments do nothing constructive and frankly they are pathetic and totally uncalled for.

well said joey

[The Slim Reaper]

Did you start a thread when Gove called those warning of the cost of brexit, Nazi's?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Did you start a thread when Gove called those warning of the cost of brexit, Nazi's?

i expect Arista did yes

but its not the same comparison as i recall - Gove was more stating that "experts" were being "paid" to spout a version of events rather than say xy and z is behaving like a Nazi

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i expect Arista did yes

but its not the same comparison as i recall - Gove was more stating that "experts" were being "paid" to spout a version of events rather than say xy and z is behaving like a Nazi

Because Nazi's were well known for their use of paid labour?

[arista]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Did you start a thread when Gove called those warning of the cost of brexit, Nazi's?

No

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by arista

No

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by arista

No

Exactly.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Livia

The difference between them is that Germany has owned its grubby past. I don't see anyone on TV spouting Nazi ideology. but Communist ideology is embraced for some reason. Why the Stalin flags at Labour meetings if it's a discredited and irrelevant ideology? And you know, Communism is alive and well in China, Laos, Vietnam...

It's not like anyone is claiming that the far right is good. Far from it. But this thread is about David Lammy… and instead of debate there is example after example of wrongdoing in the Tory party, as if one cancels out the other.

You don't see how alt-right is insinuating its way into normal politics around the world? Even here? Well

[LaLaLand]

Just saw this on FB and had to share

Youtube video

Idiot.

[Liam-]

He needs sacking asap

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by Liam-

He needs sacking asap

Let him keep making a clown of himself ~ Karma will come for him.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

You don't see how alt-right is insinuating its way into normal politics around the world? Even here? Well

Of course I see it. And I see the scale of it and the intelligence of it, and I am far more worried about the rise of the alt Left . People like myself who are on the right can see the danger, the lunacy of the alt Right, whereas people on the left will excuse and battle for the alt Left, who are FAR more organised and come in much bigger numbers.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Livia

Of course I see it. And I see the scale of it and the intelligence of it, and I am far more worried about the rise of the alt Left . People like myself who are on the right can see the danger, the lunacy of the alt Right, whereas people on the left will excuse and battle for the alt Left, who are FAR more organised and come in much bigger numbers.

Then we fundamentally disagree in our assessments. Far left has no chance of influencing electorate. It's not a lurch to far left that has taken place in the US and many countries of Europe. It's not far left parties who win sizeable voting shares everywhere. It's not far left who are busy spreading fake news and ads online.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Livia

Of course I see it. And I see the scale of it and the intelligence of it, and I am far more worried about the rise of the alt Left . People like myself who are on the right can see the danger, the lunacy of the alt Right, whereas people on the left will excuse and battle for the alt Left, who are FAR more organised and come in much bigger numbers.

Yeah, I'm more worried about the damage to the West which would be caused by demographic change from having too many people from backwards cultures in the name of "compassion", than I am a bunch of racists who have no realistic chance of achieving anything.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Yeah, I'm more worried about the damage to the West which would be caused by demographic change from having too many people from backwards cultures in the name of "compassion",

Part 1, let me introduce you to...

Part 2

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

than I am a bunch of racists who have no realistic chance of achieving anything.

Yeah, those pesky racists eh, ruining for good honest inclusive types like you.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Part 1, let me introduce you to...

Part 2



Yeah, those pesky racists eh, ruining for good honest inclusive types like you.

I never claimed to be inclusive? But there's nothing racist about not wanting the country to be negatively affected by immigration from backward cultures. Whereas some alt-right types are actually racist.