[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Redway

Let’s have a bit of respect for people’s opinions going forward.

people can believe any stuff they want but there already is a scientific answer and its one that the laws of science that run the universe are based on

now you can either accept them or think that they are all wrong and that some anecdote is right - entirely your choice of course

[Redway]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

people can believe any stuff they want but there already is a scientific answer and its one that the laws of science that run the universe are based on

now you can either accept them or think that they are all wrong and that some anecdote is right - entirely your choice of course

What rigid dogmatists fail to understand is that nothing’s proven for an absolute fact. Nothing.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Redway

What rigid dogmatists fail to understand is that nothing’s proven for an absolute fact. Nothing.

so we can wexect to see you jump out an airplane with no parachute?


refute that pesky gravity and biology and physics

[Redway]

Okay.

[Redway]

We don’t have the same background or experiences re. spirituality and it shows.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Redway

What rigid dogmatists fail to understand is that nothing’s proven for an absolute fact. Nothing.

There is no such thing as absolute fact, that much is true, the entire universe could (quite easily) be a dream or illusion.

However,

There being nonsuch thing as absolute certainty does not mean that all possibilities are assigned an equal share of probability. Which is something that I personally find a lot of specifically religious people (rather than openly spiritual people) fail to understand.

So whilst Christian heaven, reincarnation, or the idea that we all spring violently into another dimension via LT's butt hole are all theoretically possible, that doesn't make them probable, and in my opinion, any organised religious concept of afterlife is accurate is so highly improbable that it becomes functionally false.

The only viable (probable) answers are 1) there's simply nothing, or 2) it's something no one has thought of yet and that is likely beyond current human understanding completely.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

There is no such thing as absolute fact, that much is true, the entire universe could (quite easily) be a dream or illusion.

However,

There being nonsuch thing as absolute certainty does not mean that all possibilities are assigned an equal share of probability. Which is something that I personally find a lot of specifically religious people (rather than openly spiritual people) fail to understand.

So whilst Christian heaven, reincarnation, or the idea that we all spring violently into another dimension via LT's butt hole are all theoretically possible, that doesn't make them probable, and in my opinion, any organised religious concept of afterlife is accurate is so highly improbable that it becomes functionally false.

The only viable (probable) answers are 1) there's simply nothing, or 2) it's something no one has thought of yet and that is likely beyond current human understanding completely.

Like I say we’re not all empiricists. Personal experience in the spiritual realm isn’t something you can shake no matter how much you try. Some people live outside of academia and feel things in a deeper realm.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Redway

Like I say we’re not all empiricists. Personal experience in the spiritual realm isn’t something you can shake no matter how much you try. Some people live outside of academia and feel things in a deeper realm.

they dont, their either have not taken the time to learn about why things happen or they use "supernaturality" to make them feel important in their peer group

there is no spiritual realm like their is no Narnia

it exists as fiction in the mind

[Redway]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

they dont, their either have not taken the time to learn about why things happen or they use "supernaturality" to make them feel important in their peer group

there is no spiritual realm like their is no Narnia

it exists as fiction in the mind

Was it not you who told Livia with all your renowned sensitivity and tact that she’ll never see some of her loved ones again?

[Redway]

There’s a way to be a rationalist without being cold.