[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

you wrote nothing wrong, Sticks

we need a wider perspective as well as talk about this atrocity, these things are not mutually exclusive, the opposite, they aid our understanding

Did you look for for a wider perspective on the NZ thread?

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Did you look for for a wider perspective on the NZ thread?

I did

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

I did

Maybe you can post it for me as I am struggling to find any post where you are trying to excuse the terrorist in question on that occasion and claim a wider perspective

I found this posted by you though, and it applies equally on here as there



don't worry about my head

worry about your own conscience

calling out terrorism is the honest thing to do, not burying your head in the sand and pretending it's something else

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Maybe you can post it for me as I am struggling to find any post where you are trying to excuse the terrorist in question on that occasion and claim a wider perspective

I found this posted by you though, and it applies equally on here as there



don't worry about my head

worry about your own conscience

calling out terrorism is the honest thing to do, not burying your head in the sand and pretending it's something else

Since when trying to understand how religion drives people to terrorism is excusing it?

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Since when trying to understand how religion drives people to terrorism is excusing it?

its not religion per se, its extremism and I don't think we need to dig too deep to understand that

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Cherie

its not religion per se, its extremism and I don't think we need to dig too deep to understand that

We need to dig deep enough to cut it off at its roots. In this case promote such a reading of Islam which invalidates killing of non-believers

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

We need to dig deep enough to cut it off at its roots. In this case promote such a reading of Islam which invalidates killing of non-believers

We? Who is this 'we' of which you speak?

You surely mean that moderate Muslims need to dig deep. Unless you're thinking of intervening in a religion you know little or nothing about.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Since when trying to understand how religion drives people to terrorism is excusing it?

If only you felt the same about other kinds of terrorists, but it looks like it's just the Muslims you're trying to understand. and what makes me laugh about your attempts to minimise what happened, is that the kind of fundamentalists who carried out these attacks would be outraged if they thought a gay man was speaking up for them.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Livia

If only you felt the same about other kinds of terrorists, but it looks like it's just the Muslims you're trying to understand. and what makes me laugh about your attempts to minimise what happened, is that the kind of fundamentalists who carried out these attacks would be outraged if they thought a gay man was speaking up for them.

Livia, as a lawyer you can do better than trot out demagogy that trying to understand an issue means excusing it. So crime profilers and criminologists approve of crime bc they spend their time trying to understand? Geez

The rest of your post is just nonsense, not even trying to answer it.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Livia, as a lawyer you can do better than trot out demagogy that trying to understand an issue means excusing it. So crime profilers and criminologists approve of crime bc they spend their time trying to understand? Geez

The rest of your post is just nonsense, not even trying to answer it.

Yes I'm a lawyer. That's about all you know about me. You're neither a profiler not a criminologist I'd be willing to bet. You think that the intelligence services should be in involved in helping Muslims understand their own holy book.

Why is the rest of my post nonsense? To me, and maybe I'm alone in this, you do seem to be making excuses for them, and as you're a gay man, that surprises me.