[user104658]

Nice to see some fresh faces with new ideas entering politics.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Nice to see some fresh faces with new ideas entering politics.

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Nice to see some fresh faces with new ideas entering politics.

I don't particularly agree with people like this coming back into politics, but at least she has the get up and go and courage of her convictions to do that at 71, where are all these young fresh faces at I wonder?

[Underscore]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I don't particularly agree with people like this coming back into politics, but at least she has the get up and go and courage of her convictions to do that at 71, where are all these young fresh faces at I wonder?

Tbf I don't blame ordinary people wanting to get into politics right now, it's toxic af on both sides.

You get criticised for your views from all sides...

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Underscore

Tbf I don't blame ordinary people wanting to get into politics right now, it's toxic af on both sides.

You get criticised for your views from all sides...

I agree with that, but Ann Widdecombe will be subject to the same criticism if not worse!

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I don't particularly agree with people like this coming back into politics, but at least she has the get up and go and courage of her convictions to do that at 71, where are all these young fresh faces at I wonder?

Desperately scrabbling around trying to be heard and taken seriously whilst being steam-rolled by 71 year olds with outdated views and values who benefit heavily from the nepotism of having old cronies already in politics and only have to say "hehe I fancy being in politics again" to be thrust immediately to the front lines.

Or something.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Desperately scrabbling around trying to be heard and taken seriously whilst being steam-rolled by 71 year olds with outdated views and values who benefit heavily from the nepotism of having old cronies already in politics and only have to say "hehe I fancy being in politics again" to be thrust immediately to the front lines.

Or something.

never in history is it easier to be heard with the advent of the internet and social media

more like they find it harder to be unpopular

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

never in history is it easier to be heard with the advent of the internet and social media

I find this to be mostly false; dissenting voices with things to say that are worth hearing are lost in the rabble of millions, and those that do shine through are quickly shouted down by those "who already have status" and believe that their own voice carries more importance and gravitas... and by those who already trail around after those individuals crowing the same borrowed opinions ad infinitum.

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I find this to be mostly false; dissenting voices with things to say that are worth hearing are lost in the rabble of millions, and those that do shine through are quickly shouted down by those "who already have status" and believe that their own voice carries more importance and gravitas... and by those who already trail around after those individuals crowing the same borrowed opinions ad infinitum.

yes and that is why anyone and his dog can be a youtube sensation or a "social influencer"

if that lollipop headed dork Joe Sug did not exist you may have a point

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Desperately scrabbling around trying to be heard and taken seriously whilst being steam-rolled by 71 year olds with outdated views and values who benefit heavily from the nepotism of having old cronies already in politics and only have to say "hehe I fancy being in politics again" to be thrust immediately to the front lines.

Or something.

How old is too old? Jeremy Corbyn is 69. I mean, is it only too old when you're opposed to their politics? Nelson Mandela was 77 when he first became president. Is that too old?

I have to smile at all the people who consider themselves to be young people, not understanding what experience is and the fact you can't buy it on Amazon.

I wonder whether people's views will change when they get a few more years under their belts?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Livia

How old is too old? Jeremy Corbyn is 69. I mean, is it only too old when you're opposed to their politics? Nelson Mandela was 77 when he first became president. Is that too old?

I have to smile at all the people who consider themselves to be young people, not understanding what experience is and the fact you can't buy it on Amazon.

I wonder whether people's views will change when they get a few more years under their belts?

Good points again Livia.

Age isn't a barrier nor should it he.
Winston Churchill was near 80 when ending his last term as PM.

I've always believed I can learn from all ages.

I may disagree with Ann Widdecombe but not because of her age.
I agree with for instance Michael Heseltine.
He was my Dad's favourite in politics.

I still agree mostly with Heseltine.

I'm just using 2 elder Statespersons as examples of one I agree with, one I don't.
Their age not relevant to be at all.

I think if you are fit, eager and dedicated in wanting to he in politics or achieve something.
That's great.
Nothing to do with age in my view at all.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

How old is too old? Jeremy Corbyn is 69. I mean, is it only too old when you're opposed to their politics? Nelson Mandela was 77 when he first became president. Is that too old?

I have to smile at all the people who consider themselves to be young people, not understanding what experience is and the fact you can't buy it on Amazon.

I mean if I'm going to be totally honest, I'd have to say that retiring from full-time politics at 65 is probably sensible. That's not to say that older people can't be politically active and have strong political opinions but modern politics easily CAN become stuck in a rut when we have the same high profile politicians active for 30+ years and yes, Mr Corbyn is a prime example of that. A huge chunk of his politics should have been left back in the 70's / 80's where it belongs.

I don't think it's ageism. In fact, there are plenty of examples of older politically active people whose politics has moved with the times. Corbyn isn't one of them for the mostpart; and the fact that Ms Widdecombe has only now resurfaced to hammer on about Brexit doesn't give me much hope that she has anything new or fresh to add to the debate, either.

I wonder whether people's views will change when they get a few more years under their belts?

You're barely 5 minutes older than me Livia, no need to be patronising

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Desperately scrabbling around trying to be heard and taken seriously whilst being steam-rolled by 71 year olds with outdated views and values who benefit heavily from the nepotism of having old cronies already in politics and only have to say "hehe I fancy being in politics again" to be thrust immediately to the front lines.

Or something.

There has never been a better time to get a foothold in politics, with two new parties