[smudgie]

The trip may have just been announced but it will have been in the diary for a good while.
Harry would hardly walk away from his commitments to Invictus, unless the birth is actually expected on either of the two days he is away.
Baby could already be here, if so then congratulations to the happy couple.
As to keeping it private and within the family, good on them.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

probably, would not trust her as far as i could throw her and I think William has told this to harry and they ave had frequent rows

In the same sentence with what we've been reading about that one lately mmhhmm

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

They would still get peace, its not like the cameras will be allowed in Frogmore ....... Shes alienating Harry from the public who have always loved him ,God it was the worst days work he did when he put a ring on her finger and poor lad will rue the day very soon, if he's not already

I'm really not liking this blame the woman for manipulating the man into marrying here, and wanting to keep the birth of their first child private......

Harry is a big boy, why do you think he shouldn't take responsibilities for his own choices?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

That poor woman, god knows what she's actually done to deserve such hate. What's wrong with wanting a bit of privacy after giving birth? Bloody hell

Yeah, the anger directed at her, over everything (including things like her shutting the car door wrong..I swear I have seen pages of insults on that!) seems so disproportionate to anything I have seen before.

If she had had the baby, good for her. I doubt it though as it would have came out by now. IF they managed to keep it secret, its obviously for good reason, and its both their choice also so not sure why its only her getting the blame.

[Liam-]

Parents should be allowed to bond with their kid in private before showing them off to anyone else, it’s their baby, not ours, this weird possessiveness we have over the royals is bizarre

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Yeah, the anger directed at her, over everything (including things like her shutting the car door wrong..I swear I have seen pages of insults on that!) seems so disproportionate to anything I have seen before.

If she had had the baby, good for her. I doubt it though as it would have came out by now. IF they managed to keep it secret, its obviously for good reason, and its both their choice also so not sure why its only her getting the blame.

and if she actually hasn't had the baby I wonder if people vilifying her will acknowledge that?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

That poor woman, god knows what she's actually done to deserve such hate. What's wrong with wanting a bit of privacy after giving birth? Bloody hell

I guess it's that, you know what you're getting when you marry a royal, and she married him... it was her choice. What makes me frown is the fact that she's trying to change stuff. Thanks God she's just a minor royal. She's living a very privileged life now and that comes at a cost.

The baby was said to be due in April, well, it's May now. And I'm perfectly happy for them to keep it all to themselves, so long as I'm not expected to listen next time she's wanting attention for some cause.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Blurryface

I'm not just on about the forum, this is a nationwide thing, so you don't need to get clever with it. She gets hate for wanting to keep her baby secret, but that's just what most others would want to do.

Are you really saying that when you gave birth you'd want crowds of people outside the hospital awaiting your exit, press surrounding you on the way to the car taking photos etc. Really, their baby is nobody's business but Harry and Meghans.

She should announce the birth immediately so the press **** off from outside the hospital so normal folk can get on with thier lives...and no..most mothers and parents can't wait to tell everyone about thier happy news.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by parmnion

She should announce the birth immediately so the press **** off from outside the hospital so normal folk can get on with thier lives...and no..most mothers and parents can't wait to tell everyone about thier happy news.

Oh no, she's not going to hospital... at least not the one all the other royals have been to. And she won't be posing outside with the baby either.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

and if she actually hasn't had the baby I wonder if people vilifying her will acknowledge that?

Nah, she will have put the rumours of her having had the baby out there herself for attention in that case.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Livia

Oh no, she's not going to hospital... at least not the one all the other royals have been to. And she won't be posing outside with the baby either.

Is she even pushing?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

I guess it's that, you know what you're getting when you marry a royal, and she married him... it was her choice. What makes me frown is the fact that she's trying to change stuff. Thanks God she's just a minor royal. She's living a very privileged life now and that comes at a cost.

The baby was said to be due in April, well, it's May now. And I'm perfectly happy for them to keep it all to themselves, so long as I'm not expected to listen next time she's wanting attention for some cause.

But things do change, even the Royals, the whole thing would be extremely stagnant and archaic otherwise. Wasn't it William and Kate having a child that changed the tradition of boys first for the throne rather than first child of either sex for example, or did I imagine that?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

She should announce the birth immediately so the press **** off from outside the hospital so normal folk can get on with thier lives...and no..most mothers and parents can't wait to tell everyone about thier happy news.

Most parents aren't stalked by paparazzi. Of course its part and parcel of marrying Harry, that part I agree with, but that doesn't mean they have to open up every minute of their private lives to the public.

It may well be tradition for Royals to be photographed within minutes of getting their stitches but..that doesn't mean someone can't buck the trend, or even totally change tradition..I imagine now that one couple have done it, more will in future now they know its an option.

I don't really get what difference it makes between them announcing it the hour it happens, or saying a few days later 'we had X at 4.56am on 2 May, happy and healthy' or something. Fairly sure they will have told family, if its happened.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Is she even pushing?

She'll probably have someone to do that for her...

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

But things do change, even the Royals, the whole thing would be extremely stagnant and archaic otherwise. Wasn't it William and Kate having a child that changed the tradition of boys first for the throne rather than first child of either sex for example, or did I imagine that?

Yes... but they shouldn't change because an American actress has decided to shake things up a bit. And what's more, I think people feel very protective of Harry; I'm sure many people feel quite protective of him and he seems besotted. Which is lovely... but....

I told you... my friend Alice... she's always right.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Most parents aren't stalked by paparazzi. Of course its part and parcel of marrying Harry, that part I agree with, but that doesn't mean they have to open up every minute of their private lives to the public.

It may well be tradition for Royals to be photographed within minutes of getting their stitches but..that doesn't mean someone can't buck the trend, or even totally change tradition..I imagine now that one couple have done it, more will in future now they know its an option.

I don't really get what difference it makes between them announcing it the hour it happens, or saying a few days later 'we had X at 4.56am on 2 May, happy and healthy' or something. Fairly sure they will have told family, if its happened.

In that case, step down from public life, stop using your royal title to raise your own profile, go and buy a house somewhere and then they won't have to stick to royal protocol. Simples!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Yes... but they shouldn't change because an American actress has decided to shake things up a bit. And what's more, I think people feel very protective of Harry; I'm sure many people feel quite protective of him and he seems besotted. Which is lovely... but....

I told you... my friend Alice... she's always right.

Oh so if she were an English lords daughter who swanned around socialising on her trust fund and not working before bagging a Prince for herself, then it would be ok to look for some change? hhmm

More power to her I say

Also, who the **** is Alice?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Livia

In that case, step down from public life, stop using your royal title to raise your own profile, go and buy a house somewhere and then they won't have to stick to royal protocol. Simples!

Seems they can keep the titles, and still not have to stick to royal protocol

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

probably, would not trust her as far as i could throw her and I think William has told this to harry and they ave had frequent rows

Agree totally !! ^ I cant stand the woman from the engagement video when she was clinging onto him like a limpet ,all doe eyed looking at him ,i said to my daughter " Shes a fake as ....... " THEN came her biggest pile of BS when she said she had never heard of Harry .... I too think shes caused a major rift with William and Kate who Harry was so close to, now she driving a wedge between him and the public who love him ,and the public will never forgive or forget if this baby HAS been born a couple of weeks ago ( my guess is Easter time ) Meghan has signed her own future with the British public and the marriage will be over before the wedding cake gets mould on it

[Vicky.]

Mind, if thats true about her claiming to never have heard of Harry, thats quite ridicuous

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Agree totally !! ^ I cant stand the woman from the engagement video when she was clinging onto him like a limpet ,all doe eyed looking at him ,i said to my daughter " Shes a fake as ....... " THEN came her biggest pile of BS when she said she had never heard of Harry .... I too think shes caused a major rift with William and Kate who Harry was so close to, now she driving a wedge between him and the public who love him ,and the public will never forgive or forget if this baby HAS been born a couple of weeks ago ( my guess is Easter time ) Meghan has signed her own future with the British public and the marriage will be over before the wedding cake gets mould on it

Like you've literally made up a whole narrative about them based on absolutely nothing except what? Tabloid rumours? If you believe those then you must also believe that William is a dirty cheat, Poor Kate :'(

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Oh no, she's not going to hospital... at least not the one all the other royals have been to. And she won't be posing outside with the baby either.

She FAR too important to go to the same hospital as Diana and Kate ,and doesn't believe the public should have a photo of the baby ( how long do photo shoots take? 5 minutes tops !!) the taxpayer is keeping her and this baby for the rest of their lives, so a little respect is not too much to ask for

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

In that case, step down from public life, stop using your royal title to raise your own profile, go and buy a house somewhere and then they won't have to stick to royal protocol. Simples!

She wants it all but wants it her way .... Poor Harry

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Like you've literally made up a whole narrative about them based on absolutely nothing except what? Tabloid rumours? If you believe those then you must also believe that William is a dirty cheat, Poor Kate :'(

I judged her on the VIDEO nothing the red tops have printed

[Niamh.]

These devil women coming to corrupt the naive, innocent Princes