[Cherie]

Whatever you think of Farage, he is a master at pushing himself forward, he manufactured that argument with Marr yesterday to make himself look anti-establishment, Marr couldn't handle him

I think the other parties have given up already in the face of what is almost undoubtedly be a landslide against them

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Whatever you think of Farage, he is a master at pushing himself forward, he manufactured that argument with Marr yesterday to make himself look anti-establishment, Marr couldn't handle him

I think the other parties have given up already in the face of what is almost undoubtedly be a landslide against them

You Are Most Wise Cherie

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Whatever you think of Farage, he is a master at pushing himself forward, he manufactured that argument with Marr yesterday to make himself look anti-establishment, Marr couldn't handle him

Oh yes, cannot deny Farages ability to shine the spotlight on himself and gain attention

Pasting this here as its probably the longest Brexit type post I have done and it seems to fit somewhat..

I still have no ****ing clue how on earth people thought we could just ditch the bad parts of being in the EU, and keep the good bits, maybe make the good bits even better! Why the hell would the EU agree to that?! Its just..insane, but so many were convinced that it could happen and some still seem convinced, while others just rage about how 'we' voted leave so just crash out with no deal at all and **** the consequences (despite every leaver I know voting leave whilst thinking we would get a trade deal..and saying they would change that if its no deal because we were basically promised some sort of deal:S ). It is just a huge steaming pile of crap really.

The only way I see out of it is another vote, allowing those who did vote under false pretences (and lies were told on both sides, just seemingly more of them on the leave side) to have their say. As so many leavers voted thinking a deal would be done, then surely, a vote of 'leave with no deal' or 'dont leave' makes sense, and theres good reason for it. Its not doing it because 'remoaners' dont like the result (though it makes me laugh when Farage goes on about that, given just before the votes were even confirmed he was already going on about how he would push for a second vote..obviously assuming stay would win ) its actually so people are actually ****ing informed this time. I have a feeling, that those who wish to plunge us into bigger recession than we have known before and such (ah yes, project fear..ignore the experts) will be in the minority tbh.

I was dead against another vote for ages too. But it really does seem to me to be the only way. EU won't keep granting us extensions, and leaving us in permanent limbo is stupid.


The issue I see here, with the brexit party, is that basically, votes for all others will be split, whilst those who are actually desperate for us to crash out with no plans/preperations made will all concentrate on one party. And then, as I understand it, it still needs to be voted on by the MPs anyway? So this is a single issue party, who cannot even do the one thing they claim to be going to do?

Either way mind, I am kind of glad its all been shaken up a bit. The 'will always be labour or tories; is fairly depressing when both are going/have gone to a pile of utter wank in recent years (or earlier). I honestly think we need everything gone. Scrap all current parties, all current MPs and such, and begin anew. Will never happen mind, but I can dream