[Babayaro.]

I mean, it would be an unreal fight between those two (possibly one of the best, most evenly-matched on paper) but turning good 'ol Grey Worm into a bad guy, of sorts, would be sad to see

[Scarlett.]

I forgot about this scene

Youtube video

[Brother Leon]

Originally Posted by Shaun

I know a lot of fans will be "I told you so!" about the rapid deterioration of this show's writing since, perhaps, season 5 or 6... but that was something else. A ridiculous fireworks display of absolutely no character depth or subtlety.

So many brilliant characters snuffed out with a blink-and-you'll-miss-it. Varys? Gone immediately. Qyburn? Randomly smashed against a wall. The Hound/The Mountain was a brief distraction. Euron/Jamie? A mild fracas on the beach. Cersei, the baddest bitch of them all? Basement collapsed.

Entire new storylines are just thrown away at the drop of a hat. No more golden company, despite knowing nothing about them. Iron Fleet all disappear immediately, unable to do what they did in 5 seconds last week.

I found myself drawn to the mother/daughter that saved Arya but that was about it.. everything else just pissed me off and this show is as dead as every interesting character (bar Arya/Sansa/Tyrion (and obviously Brienne)).

I never bought into the decline of the show. I feel that was mostly book readers just being obnoxious once the show timeline went past it.

Season 6 had 3 episodes that easy could be considered the best of the series. This season has been so rushed though...

[Tom4784]

You could tell the writing took a hit as soon as they left the books behind but even at it's previous worst (The Dorne season tbh) it was still 'bad for GOT but great when compared to everything else' but these past two episodes have been straight up Riverdale quality writing. It's objectively bad to the point that I think it's ruined the whole show for me, it truly has. I don't think I can watch the older episodes and enjoy them knowing how the story will inevitably end because I can't see myself enjoying the last episode.

I'm not even the biggest Dany fan but what they did to her whole arc is a ****ing travesty. Possibly the biggest writing sin I've ever witnessed in my life. It's just disrespectful to everyone involved.

[Brother Leon]

I’m mad about Jaime’s arc more than anything.


Dany has always been abit of an entitled brat with goals of wanting to burn things down if she can’t get her way all the way as far back as season 2. She just had people like Jorah to level her out and quell the mad Targaryen in her.

The season has suffered from having less episodes, because it really should have stretched more longer to show her gradual decline mentally without him though, but at the end of the day I do agree with the endgame for her... just not the journey.


Oh, and how little Jon Snow has done this season has been a joke. I can accept Arya killing The Night King, but **** me All he’s done this season is say “She’s My Queen” a bunch of times tbh.

[Toy Soldier]

The idea that Jon would make a good ruler is also bizarre at this point; he's shown himself to be emotionally gullible and open to manipulation. If he was king someone would definitely come along and start whispering in his ear and get him all confused in no time!

Only person left in the show who would make a genuinely good monarch is Sansa . She cares enough about doing broadly the right thing to be a fair ruler, but she's also hardened and clear in her vision of what's actually going on.

Although, presumably there IS no Iron Throne now and Dany intends to rule from Dragonstone?

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

I’m mad about Jaime’s arc more than anything.


Dany has always been abit of an entitled brat with goals of wanting to burn things down if she can’t get her way all the way as far back as season 2. She just had people like Jorah to level her out and quell the mad Targaryen in her.

The season has suffered from having less episodes, because it really should have stretched more longer to show her gradual decline mentally without him though, but at the end of the day I do agree with the endgame for her... just not the journey.


Oh, and how little Jon Snow has done this season has been a joke. I can accept Arya killing The Night King, but **** me All he’s done this season is say “She’s My Queen” a bunch of times tbh.

yup, the Spice King owning her in season 2 was great btw

[Nicky91]

Jaime but anyway good he was the one who killed the show's biggest twat Euron

[bitontheslide]

Dani said that she was going to break the wheel, and its pretty clear she has done that now ..... and taken half the cart with it


It really all depends on what Dani does next. If she sets things up to be fair and good, she will probably get away with her momentary slip, failing that, she will need to take out Jon Snow.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

I never bought into the decline of the show. I feel that was mostly book readers just being obnoxious once the show timeline went past it.

Season 6 had 3 episodes that easy could be considered the best of the series. This season has been so rushed though...

I watched the show before the books...I think S6 was pretty decent but since then its been utter trash. The characters developed a ridiculous amount of plot armour where before..they could be killed regardless of how they seemed 'vital' to the story..just for one bad decision. It was unpredictable beforehand, and became extremely predictable in s7 to the point where..noone at all died besides littlefinger (and am not totally sure hes gone either..but thats my conspiracy) Same seemed to be going on this season, whitewalker battle no real shocks or anything and hundreds of thousands dead but oddly enough the main characters all survived. And now this utter utter ****show of an episode with the likes of Cersei getting a terrible death when it finally came..
Through s8 the scriptwriting has been utterly horrendous, given what they had to work with. WAY too many plot holes (still cannot get over Cersei suddenly having honour and not just killing dany and her crew inc dragon..instead chosing to have a bit to and fro with tyrion then let everyone leave merrily...) and just basically, piss poor planning, despite having so long to get it right. The acting has been, as always amazing mind. Cannot fault it.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

I’m mad about Jaime’s arc more than anything.

Also ****ing yes to this. Why?! Why on earth did they do that for ****s sake..

[Strictly Jake]

I'm also wondering why the long stories a bit bran being the three eyed raven and ayra being one of the faceless people for it not come in useful at any point of the final series

Also I thought cersei was supposed to have been killed by one of her brothers?

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Dani said that she was going to break the wheel, and its pretty clear she has done that now ..... and taken half the cart with it


It really all depends on what Dani does next. If she sets things up to be fair and good, she will probably get away with her momentary slip, failing that, she will need to take out Jon Snow.

not just break the wheel, but destroying entire kings landing

and the iron throne, well i'm not sure if that is still there

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

I’m mad about Jaime’s arc more than anything.


Dany has always been abit of an entitled brat with goals of wanting to burn things down if she can’t get her way all the way as far back as season 2. She just had people like Jorah to level her out and quell the mad Targaryen in her.

The season has suffered from having less episodes, because it really should have stretched more longer to show her gradual decline mentally without him though, but at the end of the day I do agree with the endgame for her... just not the journey.


Oh, and how little Jon Snow has done this season has been a joke. I can accept Arya killing The Night King, but **** me All he’s done this season is say “She’s My Queen” a bunch of times tbh.

They literally spent 7 seasons redeeming Jaimes character, only for him to go right back to Season 1 Jaime again, it was horrendous

Also agree with you about Jon, he's been totally pointless this season and are we really supposed to believe that Dany burned all those innocent people because Jon wouldn't shag her? That's disappointing

Originally Posted by ShakeyJake10

I'm also wondering why the long stories a bit bran being the three eyed raven and ayra being one of the faceless people for it not come in useful at any point of the final series

Also I thought cersei was supposed to have been killed by one of her brothers?

Yeah, her death was really disappointing, all the rest of the prophecy from that fortune teller came true, why not complete the circle?

[Niamh.]

Also, they spent alot of time on Arya this episode and her view of the carnage, I'm betting she's going to kill Dany next episode

[Vicky.]

Maybe Arya kills Dany, but waring Jons face or something. Its the Cersei thing all over again but surely the faceless man stuff must have meant something more than her being able to kill off house Frey for ****s sake

[Niamh.]

And the NK

[The Slim Reaper]

[Niamh.]

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Maybe Arya kills Dany, but waring Jons face or something. Its the Cersei thing all over again but surely the faceless man stuff must have meant something more than her being able to kill off house Frey for ****s sake

Think the faceless stuff was more about teaching her to become an assassin rather than specifically change her face - that's just an added bonus.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Comin' over ere' resizing my pictures!

[bitontheslide]

Jon has spent the last season and a bit saying you are my queen, even in the last episode where Varys pointed out what would happen, he said, she is my queen .... how is he now going to say ... oh ... you really are queen now .... YOUR NOT MY QUEEN

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

littlefinger (and am not totally sure hes gone either..but thats my conspiracy)

We literally saw him getting sliced open from ear to ear Vicky . The only explanation for him being alive would be if Arya was in on it and deliberately missed the arteries whilst "making it look good". But then, whoever got rid of the body would have to be in on it too.

(still cannot get over Cersei suddenly having honour and not just killing dany and her crew inc dragon..instead chosing to have a bit to and fro with tyrion then let everyone leave merrily...)

I had trouble with that at first but it does actually make more sense when you think of it as "mutually assured destruction". Cersei is stood right there and Drogon could torch that wall in seconds, you'd have to be pretty sure that the first shot would be a killing blow to risk it. Sure she could have easily taken out Dany there and then but there was too high a personal risk.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Maybe Arya kills Dany, but waring Jons face or something. Its the Cersei thing all over again but surely the faceless man stuff must have meant something more than her being able to kill off house Frey for ****s sake

Originally Posted by Niamh.

And the NK

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Think the faceless stuff was more about teaching her to become an assassin rather than specifically change her face - that's just an added bonus.

Oh ok sorry, misunderstood you, you meant the actual face swapping

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Jon has spent the last season and a bit saying you are my queen, even in the last episode where Varys pointed out what would happen, he said, she is my queen .... how is he now going to say ... oh ... you really are queen now .... YOUR NOT MY QUEEN

To be fair he's been justifying all of her actions thus far (torching the Tarlys, etc.) as "hard acts of war" or even things like Varys as treason. There's no way to justify her actions at King's Landing as anything but a war crime. Even burning JUST the soldiers after they had thrown down their weapons would be a war crime... deliberately killing civilians - not even collateral damage, but deliberate massacre - is up there with (or BEYOND) the very worst warlords in real human history .