[Shaun]

We got 3pts from Ireland though... in the televote

For all my defences of Eurovision and the mythological bloc-voting there are definitely some that need a shake up:

1) Belarus' jury were apparently dismissed by Eurovision... but their vote still counted to the total? they were the ones who voted for literally every of the 10 countries that were last at the time Idk wtf happened there.
2) Greece/Cyprus need to be sanctioned, their voting statistics are HIGHLY suspect lmao. As of 2018, Greece received a total of 324pts from Cyprus. Their next highest "friend" is Spain... on 119pts and the other way, Cyprus have taken 283pts from Greece. Their next highest total? Malta and the UK... on 88pts There's just not enough done about this obvious BS. Usually their songs are strong enough to merit it, or we just turn the other cheek... but it's ridiculous.
3) The Yugoslav bloc is the biggest problem, with Serbia/Montenegro/Macedonia all voting for each other religiously. Kosovo aren't yet a competitor but you can expect them to join in if they can.
4) Similar to the Greek/Cypriot issue, there is a tiresome dependability on Denmark and Sweden trading top marks for each other, but as I said, theirs are usually 2 of the best entries anyway.

Otherwise there isn't really much of an issue... we can't whinge about neighbour voting when we expect points from Ireland and our ex-pats in Australia, Malta and Spain every year.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Shaun

We got 3pts from Ireland though... in the televote

For all my defences of Eurovision and the mythological bloc-voting there are definitely some that need a shake up:

1) Belarus' jury were apparently dismissed by Eurovision... but their vote still counted to the total? they were the ones who voted for literally every of the 10 countries that were last at the time Idk wtf happened there.
2) Greece/Cyprus need to be sanctioned, their voting statistics are HIGHLY suspect lmao. As of 2018, Greece received a total of 324pts from Cyprus. Their next highest "friend" is Spain... on 119pts and the other way, Cyprus have taken 283pts from Greece. Their next highest total? Malta and the UK... on 88pts There's just not enough done about this obvious BS. Usually their songs are strong enough to merit it, or we just turn the other cheek... but it's ridiculous.
3) The Yugoslav bloc is the biggest problem, with Serbia/Montenegro/Macedonia all voting for each other religiously. Kosovo aren't yet a competitor but you can expect them to join in if they can.
4) Similar to the Greek/Cypriot issue, there is a tiresome dependability on Denmark and Sweden trading top marks for each other, but as I said, theirs are usually 2 of the best entries anyway.

Otherwise there isn't really much of an issue... we can't whinge about neighbour voting when we expect points from Ireland and our ex-pats in Australia, Malta and Spain every year.

Very true.

I'd create blocks of countries where youd not be allowed to vote on others in the same block as your country.