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it’s a mad, mad world
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laura carter stan
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baddie
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I imagine bringing the judge tea and biscuits won't help much
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Banned
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Hopefully this will destroy his chances of becoming PM, he's a dangerous moron.
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Quand il pleut, il pleut
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This Witch doesn't burn
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Drink the Kool Aid
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A leading Human Rights Barrister writes:
![]() and this view sums up this nasty, political, immature move perfectly: The decision to summons Boris Johnson to a court hearing to explain comments he made during the EU referendum campaign three years ago is an extraordinary and ill-advised incursion by the judiciary into the political arena. Mr Johnson, the front runner in the contest to become Conservative Party leader, has been arraigned for “misconduct in public office” over the claim that £350 million was sent by the UK each week to the EU. At the time, Mr Johnson was both an MP and Mayor of London, and it is in these capacities that he is said to have broken the law. The case was brought not by the police but through a private prosecution mounted by a Remain campaigner, Marcus Ball. It is so evidently a political stunt intended to damage Mr Johnson’s leadership ambitions that it should have been dismissed. But district judge Margot Coleman has ruled that there is a prima facie case to answer and Mr Johnson has been summonsed to a hearing in the middle of the leadership election. The offence of misconduct in a public office carries a maximum sentence of life and is triable only in a Crown Court on indictment. The Court of Appeal has made it clear that the offence should be strictly confined because it can raise complex and sensitive issues. Guidelines from the Crown Prosecution Service state that advice should be sought “to resolve any uncertainty as to whether it would be appropriate to bring a prosecution for such an offence”. However, this is not a case brought by the CPS, but by a private individual crowd-funded by internet donations amounting to £400,000. It seems clear that this case does not pass the test for a criminal prosecution, otherwise why has it not been taken up by the CPS? In her ruling, District Judge Coleman states that “as this is an unusual and exceptional application with a considerable public interest... the principles of open justice required that the application be in open court.” But the point here, surely, is that this is not a crime but It is not for the courts to impede free speech in this way. Furthermore, this is manifestly a vexatious misuse of the justice system because the litigant must know the case will not succeed but relies on the process itself to inflict damage. This is a threat to democracy and a higher court needs to strike the case down urgently. Source: Telegraph Last edited by Crimson Dynamo; 30-05-2019 at 08:01 AM. |
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self-oscillating
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if he is found guilty, it will set a very interesting precedent. It's a standard that I think all MP's should be held to. I'm all for more truthful debate.
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Drink the Kool Aid
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While I don't want him as PM, I thought the bus thing was "just a suggestion, not a promise" so he'd be in the clear?
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Drink the Kool Aid
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Drink the Kool Aid
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How Boris Johnson's accuser over Brexit spent donations on self-defence classes and special cupcakes
Only three years ago, then aged 26, he was a failed entrepreneur with a string of wound-up businesses to his name, living at home in Norwich with his family. A source close to Boris Johnson said: "The claimant asserts that he is not motivated by politics. This is a blatant lie." It was less than a year after founding the campaign, according to the accounts, that Mr Ball first dipped into the funds, loaning himself £1,000. Soon afterwards he informed his supporters that even more money was needed. According to Brexit Justice’s accounts, published openly on their website, increasing amounts of money were taken out to pay for Mr Ball’s new life in London. Over the past 27 months, it emerges, he has spent more than £50,000. Expenses include more than £6,000 to pay for the rent on a London apartment in a luxury tower block near Canary Wharf, a far cry from his parents’ home in Norwich. “I chose a building which had security staff, security cameras outside and inside, as well as fitness facilities on site,” he explains in a note to his supporters. “Some people may criticise me for spending so much on rent, but I don't regret this decision.” Other payments from the fund include £120 on professional headshots of Mr Ball, as well as £333 on “self defence classes”. “By protecting myself I protect our work,” Mr Ball explains. He also spent £504 of campaign money on his personal mobile phone bill, as well as £120 on “two dozen cupcakes” branded with the Brexit Justice logo. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...housands-self/ |
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Terrible but that doesn't excuse Boris.
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Flag shagger.
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At least some people will benefit from this whole pantomime. Lawyers.
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Didn't the Liberals at one point promise to do away with school fees or something like that , was anything done about that lie ? the timing of this is a bit dodgy, as much as Boris can be a tit ,we should have equality at least, this seems like sabotage.
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self-oscillating
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Politicians should be held accountable for what they say. I am all for Boris being challenged, and add a hundred more MP's to the list while they are at it
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Flag shagger.
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For instance, I wait with breathless anticipation to see what's going to happen to Shami Chakrabarti when the The Equality and Human Rights Commission find there IS an anti-Semitism question to answer in the Labour Party, when she said quite clearly that there definitely wasn't.
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laura carter stan
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self-oscillating
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Theresa should be hauled up in court immediately for promising a strong and stable government.
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Sod orf
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How much does everyone think we send then?
I read that the Bruges Group estimates the real cost to us of being a member of the EU is more like £600 million + per week due to an complicated system of payment that the media largely ignores. I'm quite looking forward to the trial, to be honest. It's going to be a lively one. |
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laura carter stan
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics...uk-350m-a-week
This also doesn’t take into account the millions the EU gives back to us on projects the length and breadth of the UK, especially in places that voted leave Last edited by Greg!; 30-05-2019 at 10:22 AM. |
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