[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Oh C'mon where does it say there the young have to die ? lets be sensible here, and i am sure lots of older people love youngsters, infact some of us have some, I think that the 'young' description is just because NS was aimed at the young, but no where did anyone say youngsters should die,that's just silly.

My Mam used to say "They go in a boy and come out a man " This can only do good IMO

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

My Mam used to say "They go in a boy and come out a man " This can only do good IMO

And you consider a “man” to be what exactly? Someone who’s prepared to put themselves in front of a fired gun?

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Rob!

And you consider a “man” to be what exactly? Someone who’s prepared to put themselves in front of a fired gun?

Stoic, emotionally shut off, traumatised, unquestioning adherence to authority... one supposes.

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Stoic, emotionally shut off, traumatised, unquestioning adherence to authority... one supposes.

And someone who is sent out onto a battle field to sacrifice themselves because the leaders of two different countries want to show the other they have a bigger dick. It’s pointless and senseless.

At least the past two generations have grown up in a time where peace in their country is the norm. Why would anybody want to put themselves in a situation that threatens that?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Rob!

And someone who is sent out onto a battle field to sacrifice themselves because the leaders of two different countries want to show the other they have a bigger dick. It’s pointless and senseless.

At least the past two generations have grown up in a time where peace in their country is the norm. Why would anybody want to put themselves in a situation that threatens that?

So would your answer be to get rid of all our military ?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

My Mam used to say "They go in a boy and come out a man " This can only do good IMO

The older generations used to lock mentally ill and mentally disabled people in asylums and throw away the key, they didn't know their elbow from their arse when it came to knowing the effects forcing people into service could do to them.

Before anyone demands that they bring back national service, they should campaign to make sure our veterans are properly taken care of first. Too many veterans slip through the cracks into homelessness and are wrecked by PTSD and they don't get the help they need and National Service will only add to that. It's just a pointless exercise in spite by the older generations and nothing more.

As I said before, they'd be better putting all that money towards teaching teenagers how to function in the adult world and handle things like taxes, credit scores and banking and learning their rights and what they are entitled to. That will do more good then a pointless scheme just to make the older generations think they've got one over on the young.