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Old 04-09-2019, 10:21 PM #26
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Nobody is silencing anybody.
Social media platforms are private companies and have no obligation to host everybody.
Electric companies are private companies and have no obligation to provide for everybody. Should they get to deny people services?
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They may act like victims because they are being victimised on tv, media and on the streets by being lumped as one.
Yet whenever any other group are victimised you seem to not give two shiny sh*ts.
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Thr media aren't, but social media platforms seem to like banning right wing public figures.
....because a lot of right wing public figures broke very open and transparent rules of use for said social media platforms.

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Electric companies are private companies and have no obligation to provide for everybody. Should they get to deny people services?
You're comparing an electric company refusing service due to... not liking someone to... someone being banned from a privately owned website for breaking the website's own rules?

Your comparison does not work.

It's like exclaiming that TiBB does not have the right to deny people the ability to post.
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It’s all yesterday’s news, all papers are the same, they just have bigger words.
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Electric companies are private companies and have no obligation to provide for everybody. Should they get to deny people services?
Yes, if they break conditions of service, like fascists, racists and white supremacists do.
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Are the media beginning to silence the right wing of politics?
No, in fact in the UK the media are the right wing of politics.
Look at any independent analysis of media bias and you'll see.
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In the social media age we're in now, more and more people are looking for news that fits their own opinion, rather than neutral reporting or anything that challenges their views.

Most users on Twitter, for example, that post about politics - and if you look at the posts about a political topic it bears this out - are on the left or liberal side of politics.

So left-wing political users have greater numbers on Twitter and are more likely to get their way in complaints (through having a louder voice) about other users' behaviour, than the other side.

It's just better business for Twitter to favour the greater number of users.
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Electric companies are private companies and have no obligation to provide for everybody. Should they get to deny people services?
You're trying to compare social media websites to power companies. Power companies don't give platforms to people to misuse, social media can. It's just... a really badly thought out comparison on your part that makes little sense and relies entirely on false equivalency to work.

Right wing people keep getting banned from social media because they break the ****ing rules. You aren't arguing that they are being treated unfairly, you're arguing that they should get special treatment and be exempt from the rules.
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In the social media age we're in now, more and more people are looking for news that fits their own opinion, rather than neutral reporting or anything that challenges their views.

Most users on Twitter, for example, that post about politics - and if you look at the posts about a political topic it bears this out - are on the left or liberal side of politics.

So left-wing political users have greater numbers on Twitter and are more likely to get their way in complaints (through having a louder voice) about other users' behaviour, than the other side.

It's just better business for Twitter to favour the greater number of users.
it's all about business yes
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Yet whenever any other group are victimised you seem to not give two shiny sh*ts.
What's your point?
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No, they’re talking as much as ever.... its just that nobodys listening anymore.
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It’s all yesterday’s news, all papers are the same, they just have bigger words.


Me trying to decipher what the hell this means.
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People on both sides of the political spectrum believe crap. People believe crap which turns them into religious extremists. People believe crap which makes them buy things they don't need.
And that's why those things are regulated so that extremism is acted on similarly with adverising standards, false claims and misinformation are overseen by independent regulators.
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What's your point?
That you'd rather paint them as victims and ignore the actual victimisation occuring in the world. You consider that normal.
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oh i wish all right wing were silenced but sadly that isn't the case (yet)

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That you'd rather paint them as victims and ignore the actual victimisation occuring in the world. You consider that normal.
I consider it apt for this thread...

And I don't ignore other stuff.
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oh i wish all right wing were silenced but sadly that isn't the case (yet)

What will mummy and daddy do when they want to talk to you?
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What will mummy and daddy do when they want to talk to you?
i won't even talk to them anymore about politics, all what comes out of their mouth is racist, xenophobic trash


it sucks to be only left wing in the family, while my mom, dad, nan are all towards right wing

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i won't even talk to them anymore about politics, all what comes out of their mouth is racist, xenophobic trash


it sucks to be only left wing in the family, while my mom, dad, nan are all towards right wing



You should move out.
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In the social media age we're in now, more and more people are looking for news that fits their own opinion, rather than neutral reporting or anything that challenges their views.

Most users on Twitter, for example, that post about politics - and if you look at the posts about a political topic it bears this out - are on the left or liberal side of politics.

So left-wing political users have greater numbers on Twitter and are more likely to get their way in complaints (through having a louder voice) about other users' behaviour, than the other side.

It's just better business for Twitter to favour the greater number of users.
Are there any neutral media?... nu media most certainly isn't it's an echo chamber at best.
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In the social media age we're in now, more and more people are looking for news that fits their own opinion, rather than neutral reporting or anything that challenges their views.

Most users on Twitter, for example, that post about politics - and if you look at the posts about a political topic it bears this out - are on the left or liberal side of politics.

So left-wing political users have greater numbers on Twitter and are more likely to get their way in complaints (through having a louder voice) about other users' behaviour, than the other side.

It's just better business for Twitter to favour the greater number of users.
This isn't actually supported by the facts though. Left wing users generally (but not completely) aren't promoting conspiracy theorists, misogyny, racism etc, which is why they are banned less.

Also, there was a recent report showing twitter actually gives leeway to far right users, because in order to blanket ban their bigotry, they'd also have to ban US conservative politicians for espousing the same views.

It is now, and always has been a content rather than the loudest voice issue


https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/a...oliticians-too

https://www.businessinsider.com/twit...19-4?r=US&IR=T
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This isn't actually supported by the facts though. Left wing users generally (but not completely) aren't promoting conspiracy theorists, misogyny, racism etc, which is why they are banned less.

Also, there was a recent report showing twitter actually gives leeway to far right users, because in order to blanket ban their bigotry, they'd also have to ban US conservative politicians for espousing the same views.

It is now, and always has been a content rather than the loudest voice issue


https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/a...oliticians-too

https://www.businessinsider.com/twit...19-4?r=US&IR=T
Very true

They'd have to ban trump for starters, the orange bigot, racist and white supremacist
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i feel like the right is making a bit of a resurgence and is starting to get taken more seriously for whatever strange and bizarre reason
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Are there any neutral media?... nu media most certainly isn't it's an echo chamber at best.
I find the BBC to be fairly neutral. They try to report both sides of an argument. I guess programmes and sites like Sky News and ITV News too.

In terms of freedom of speech we have probably never had more of it, and never more access for people to get their views out into the world. However that is causing some problems.
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