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She buggered up her job no question. But Boris is the one causing this now, and blaming her just takes away from his responsibility (or whoever is pulling the puppet strings behind the scanes )
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She buggered up her job no question. But Boris is the one causing this now, and blaming her just takes away from his responsibility (or whoever is pulling the puppet strings behind the scanes )

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And has ****ed up more than any prime minister in the past..in such a short space of time. What an achievement!
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And has ****ed up more than any prime minister in the past..in such a short space of time. What an achievement!
Only because everything he has tried to do has been blocked by the same ministers that voted for him to be PM,so he has had to take drastic measures, which Teresa May would not do, sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind,imo.
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Only because everything he has tried to do has been blocked by the same ministers that voted for him to be PM,so he has had to take drastic measures, which Teresa May would not do, sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind,imo.
Yeah sure, thats why hes utterly ****e. Nothing to do with being ****e, and basically bulldozing his way through everything

I find it quite odd, the amount of people sticking up for Jonson tbh. Hell, most Tories I know are twisting about him too as its quite clear hes not the right person for the job, or any job infact But online, its almost like he has a cult following at times..

I am fairly sure if hes not removed soon, he will make the tories unelectable for a long time. Mind, Labours pretty much in the same boat. Next GE will be extremely interesting I think.

As a side note, for some reason I thought it was the Tory members who voted on the PM, not the actual MPs..thats how I remember it working with Corbyn, guessing its either different for other parties, or I understood that wrong too?!

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Yeah sure, thats why hes utterly ****e. Nothing to do with being ****e, and basically bulldozing his way through everything

I find it quite odd, the amount of people sticking up for Jonson tbh. Hell, most Tories I know are twisting about him too as its quite clear hes not the right person for the job, or any job infact But online, its almost like he has a cult following at times..

I am fairly sure if hes not removed soon, he will make the tories unelectable for a long time. Mind, Labours pretty much in the same boat. Next GE will be extremely interesting I think.

As a side note, for some reason I thought it was the Tory members who voted on the PM, not the actual MPs..thats how I remember it working with Corbyn, guessing its either different for other parties, or I understood that wrong too?!
You are right.

From the list of candidates.
The Con MPs decided the last 2 to go to the membership.
The members then wholly decided who got the job.

His Ministers neither are blocking him at all.

Its some of May's former ones who have helped to block his dictatorial ways.

It's actually most of HIS Ministers, who actually stuck the boot in to Theresa May along with himself doing so too against her.
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You are right.

From the list of candidates.
The Con MPs decided the last 2 to go to the membership.
The members then wholly decided who got the job.

His Ministers neither are blocking him at all.

Its some of May's former ones who have helped to block his dictatorial ways.

It's actually most of HIS Ministers, who actually stuck the boot in to Theresa May along with himself doing so too against her.
Too right Joey. He is a conniving lying chancer, devoid of any integrity and morals. No sympathy for him.
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You are right.

From the list of candidates.
The Con MPs decided the last 2 to go to the membership.
The members then wholly decided who got the job.

His Ministers neither are blocking him at all.

Its some of May's former ones who have helped to block his dictatorial ways.

It's actually most of HIS Ministers, who actually stuck the boot in to Theresa May along with himself doing so too against her.

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Only because everything he has tried to do has been blocked by the same ministers that voted for him to be PM,so he has had to take drastic measures, which Teresa May would not do, sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind,imo.
Bc he has no mandate for no deal.
The leave side promised a deal before the referendum. Apparently it was going to be easy
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Only because everything he has tried to do has been blocked by the same ministers that voted for him to be PM,so he has had to take drastic measures, which Teresa May would not do, sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind,imo.
Just payed a visit here tonight on night shift and read for a good few hours. Fair play to you Kaz for sticking to your own opinions with so many dissenting voices trying to 'educate' you (how good of them, eh?) and change your mind. I see that like minded members like Livia, LT, Chuff, Alf, are all banned... WTH? Well, well well....very odd....

Most others are all of one mindset and agreeing with each other ad nauseum. Makes for fascinating reading....NOT. What a snore fest this site now is....mainly one sided dialogue all saying mainly the same things like an broken record. A shadow of its former self compared to the good ole days....and those who are sorely needed for balance and to help keep it more interesting and diverse and stimulating are all banned.
What a disappointing visit, for me anyway...
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Just payed a visit here tonight on night shift and read for a good few hours. Fair play to you Kaz for sticking to your own opinions with so many dissenting voices trying to 'educate' you (how good of them, eh?) and change your mind. I see that like minded members like Livia, LT, Chuff, Alf, are all banned... WTH? Well, well well....very odd....

Most others are all of one mindset and agreeing with each other ad nauseum. Makes for fascinating reading....NOT. What a snore fest this site now is....mainly one sided dialogue all saying mainly the same things like an broken record. A shadow of its former self compared to the good ole days....and those who are sorely needed for balance and to help keep it more interesting and diverse and stimulating are all banned.
What a disappointing visit, for me anyway...
Aw Jet,Lovely to see you post,it's a shame so many decent posters are no longer here,and as much as I am open to be educated,I have yet to see anything that has changed my mind so far, I am mainly alone but prefer it that way as I know then that I am my own person and not out to please anyone, I don't mind debating with those who don't try to patronise me for my opinion or just name call,but it's sometimes just not worth posting , but it would be lovely to see some more like you back, loved it back in the day when even you and I disagreed but were adult enough not to fall out over anything.
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Aw Jet,Lovely to see you post,it's a shame so many decent posters are no longer here,and as much as I am open to be educated,I have yet to see anything that has changed my mind so far, I am mainly alone but prefer it that way as I know then that I am my own person and not out to please anyone, I don't mind debating with those who don't try to patronise me for my opinion or just name call,but it's sometimes just not worth posting , but it would be lovely to see some more like you back, loved it back in the day when even you and I disagreed but were adult enough not to fall out over anything.
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Just payed a visit here tonight on night shift and read for a good few hours. Fair play to you Kaz for sticking to your own opinions with so many dissenting voices trying to 'educate' you (how good of them, eh?) and change your mind. I see that like minded members like Livia, LT, Chuff, Alf, are all banned... WTH? Well, well well....very odd....

Most others are all of one mindset and agreeing with each other ad nauseum. Makes for fascinating reading....NOT. What a snore fest this site now is....mainly one sided dialogue all saying mainly the same things like an broken record. A shadow of its former self compared to the good ole days....and those who are sorely needed for balance and to help keep it more interesting and diverse and stimulating are all banned.
What a disappointing visit, for me anyway...
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Just payed a visit here tonight on night shift and read for a good few hours. Fair play to you Kaz for sticking to your own opinions with so many dissenting voices trying to 'educate' you (how good of them, eh?) and change your mind. I see that like minded members like Livia, LT, Chuff, Alf, are all banned... WTH? Well, well well....very odd....

Most others are all of one mindset and agreeing with each other ad nauseum. Makes for fascinating reading....NOT. What a snore fest this site now is....mainly one sided dialogue all saying mainly the same things like an broken record. A shadow of its former self compared to the good ole days....and those who are sorely needed for balance and to help keep it more interesting and diverse and stimulating are all banned.
What a disappointing visit, for me anyway...
...I guess jet..(...and hey, btw.....)...that I am one of the one mindset people who is agreeing ad nauseam and part of the snore fest that you speak of...?...I think though that there is a huge reason why many voices ...(...both on and off the forum...)...are uniting under the reign of Boris Johnson...his determination of a no deal stance...(...whether it be to pleasure Donald Trump or whatever his own self serving reason..)...is something that threatens the peace and stability in Northern Ireland, which I know is something that is very personal to you as well ...and obviously, a huge reason for your feelings on Corbyn, which I completely understand......but the thought that we could go back there and be led back there by selfish government egos is so frightening to many, both living in and out of Northern Ireland...hence the uniting of voices, which for me...?...need to unite more and more...I am a bit baffled that you seem to be looking at those voices with disdain ...
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...I guess jet..(...and hey, btw.....)...that I am one of the one mindset people who is agreeing ad nauseam and part of the snore fest that you speak of...?...I think though that there is a huge reason why many voices ...(...both on and off the forum...)...are uniting under the reign of Boris Johnson...his determination of a no deal stance...(...whether it be to pleasure Donald Trump or whatever his own self serving reason..)...is something that threatens the peace and stability in Northern Ireland, which I know is something that is very personal to you as well ...and obviously, a huge reason for your feelings on Corbyn, which I completely understand......but the thought that we could go back there and be led back there by selfish government egos is so frightening to many, both living in and out of Northern Ireland...hence the uniting of voices, which for me...?...need to unite more and more...I am a bit baffled that you seem to be looking at those voices with disdain ...
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...I guess jet..(...and hey, btw.....)...that I am one of the one mindset people who is agreeing ad nauseam and part of the snore fest that you speak of...?...I think though that there is a huge reason why many voices ...(...both on and off the forum...)...are uniting under the reign of Boris Johnson...his determination of a no deal stance...(...whether it be to pleasure Donald Trump or whatever his own self serving reason..)...is something that threatens the peace and stability in Northern Ireland, which I know is something that is very personal to you as well ...and obviously, a huge reason for your feelings on Corbyn, which I completely understand......but the thought that we could go back there and be led back there by selfish government egos is so frightening to many, both living in and out of Northern Ireland...hence the uniting of voices, which for me...?...need to unite more and more...I am a bit baffled that you seem to be looking at those voices with disdain ...
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Just payed a visit here tonight on night shift and read for a good few hours. Fair play to you Kaz for sticking to your own opinions with so many dissenting voices trying to 'educate' you (how good of them, eh?) and change your mind. I see that like minded members like Livia, LT, Chuff, Alf, are all banned... WTH? Well, well well....very odd....

Most others are all of one mindset and agreeing with each other ad nauseum. Makes for fascinating reading....NOT. What a snore fest this site now is....mainly one sided dialogue all saying mainly the same things like an broken record. A shadow of its former self compared to the good ole days....and those who are sorely needed for balance and to help keep it more interesting and diverse and stimulating are all banned.
What a disappointing visit, for me anyway...
So nothing of relevance to say re Brexit..Your only contribution is to wine about your mates been banned.

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Just payed a visit here tonight on night shift and read for a good few hours. Fair play to you Kaz for sticking to your own opinions with so many dissenting voices trying to 'educate' you (how good of them, eh?) and change your mind. I see that like minded members like Livia, LT, Chuff, Alf, are all banned... WTH? Well, well well....very odd....

Most others are all of one mindset and agreeing with each other ad nauseum. Makes for fascinating reading....NOT. What a snore fest this site now is....mainly one sided dialogue all saying mainly the same things like an broken record. A shadow of its former self compared to the good ole days....and those who are sorely needed for balance and to help keep it more interesting and diverse and stimulating are all banned.
What a disappointing visit, for me anyway...
As a dissenting voice let me make it clear, I don't come on here to educate anyone. .I
I have an opinion and I express it, that's it. Personally I'd say many can see this attempt by Boris to draw those who quite rightly want tougher sentences for those crimes in is nothing but an election ploy. Look at all the bills that were dropped because of prorogation, his attempting to redeem himself for those by offering this.
Here in Yorkshire he has not been received very well and I'd echo the advice to him given in Morley and Doncaster. Get back to Westminster and do your job!
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He ain't ****ed anything up.......YET.
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Yes
But they ((Johnson PM/Adviser Cummings)
may get us out of the EU
So all worth it.
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