[Twosugars]

The messenger gets attacked bc the message is uncomfortable.

There will be more young people like her in future campaigning for the same things.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by parmnion

There you go...all that says to me is her dad has used her and is using her for his beliefs...definatly better off in school away from these pushy parents.

looked it up just now even further, and yep both her mom and dad are climate activists

if sending her to school, then pls be special education which is better for people with autism, as i know out of personal experience

[Alf]

Watch the speech. She read it from a piece of paper, her mother or father could have read that from a piece of paper easily. But it wouldn't have played at the heart strings of people as much.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Alf

Watch the speech. She read it from a piece of paper, her mother or father could have read that from a piece of paper easily. But it wouldn't have played at the heart strings of people as much.

Young generations are the ones most affected. They will be dealing with this mess when you are dead.
Very fitting she is young.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Young generations are the ones most affected. They will be dealing with this mess when you are dead.
Very fitting she is young.

Why don't you take her place and take some of the heat of her?

It's no good you preaching to me, as you say, I'm just waiting around for death now anyway.

[Twosugars]

Extreme sea level events that used to occur once a century will strike every year on many coasts by 2050, no matter whether climate heating emissions are curbed or not, according to a landmark report by the world’s scientists.

The stark assessment of the climate crisis in the world’s oceans and ice caps concludes that many serious impacts are already inevitable, from more intense storms to melting permafrost and dwindling marine life.

But far worse impacts will hit without urgent action to cut fossil fuel emissions, including eventual sea level rise of more than 4 metres in the worst case, an outcome that would redraw the map of the world and harm billions of people.

The report from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), and approved by its 193 member nations, says that “all people on Earth depend directly or indirectly on the ocean” and ice caps and glaciers to regulate the climate and provide water and oxygen. But it finds unprecedented and dangerous changes being driven by global heating.

Sea level rise is accelerating as losses from Greenland and Antarctica increase, and the ocean is getting hotter, more acidic and less oxygenated. All these trends will continue to the end of the century, the IPCC report said.

Half the world’s megacities, and almost 2 billion people, live on coasts. Even if heating is restricted to just 2C, scientists expect the impact of sea level rise to cause several trillion dollars of damage a year, and result in many millions of migrants.
Mores at https://www.theguardian.com/environm...a-year-by-2050

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Alf

Why don't you take her place and take some of the heat of her?

It's no good you preaching to me, as you say, I'm just waiting around for death now anyway.

I'm too old too and too jaded

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Alf

Why don't you take her place and take some of the heat of her?

It's no good you preaching to me, as you say, I'm just waiting around for death now anyway.

but why, since you're not that old

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

It's child abuse plain and simple. And if you're gonna go around calling people bullies for be critical, then I'm gonna call you child abuse supporters.

Are children that get into sports because of their parents also abused children? Was Liza Minelli abused by Judy Garland?

[Twosugars]

Millions of climate migrants!
If nothing else does this should concentrate the minds of the hard right. We know how much they like migrants....

[Glenn.]

I don’t see how anyone could possibly have a problem with her or her message.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Are children that get into sports because of their parents also abused children? Was Liza Minelli abused by Judy Garland?

To be honest, there's a big difference from being a political activist and doing things that all children do like sports and drama.

But yes! Look at the stories coming out with child actors in Hollywood, Corey Feldman tells a tragic story. And in football and other sports a lot of cases of abuse coming out recently.

[Twosugars]

The world’s high mountain glaciers, upon which almost 2 billion people rely for water, are also melting fast, the IPCC found, while landslides are expected to increase. A third of the great Himalayan range is already doomed, with two-thirds projected to vanish if emissions are not cut.

One of the most worrying alarms sounded by the IPCC report is about melting tundra and increasing wildfires in northern latitudes: “Widespread permafrost thaw is projected for this century and beyond.” A quarter is already near certain to melt, it said, and 70% or more would go if emissions are not curbed. In the latter case, hundreds of billions of tonnes of carbon dioxide and methane could be released, supercharging the climate emergency.
From the same report as above

Btw the tundra permafrost melt is so dangerous bc it has vast reserves of co2 stored in the ground. If that goes the runaway greenhouse effect will go nuts

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

The world’s high mountain glaciers, upon which almost 2 billion people rely for water, are also melting fast, the IPCC found, while landslides are expected to increase. A third of the great Himalayan range is already doomed, with two-thirds projected to vanish if emissions are not cut.

One of the most worrying alarms sounded by the IPCC report is about melting tundra and increasing wildfires in northern latitudes: “Widespread permafrost thaw is projected for this century and beyond.” A quarter is already near certain to melt, it said, and 70% or more would go if emissions are not curbed. In the latter case, hundreds of billions of tonnes of carbon dioxide and methane could be released, supercharging the climate emergency.
From the same report as above

Btw the tundra permafrost melt is so dangerous bc it has vast reserves of co2 stored in the ground. If that goes the runaway greenhouse effect will go nuts

Maybe there is things that need sorting out, but the Planet is gonna be fine, it always has been, it'll survive us humans and long after. If they've identified problems, then stop talking and go sort them out. It's the more practical way.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Alf

Maybe there is things that need sorting out, but the Planet is gonna be fine, it always has been, it'll survive us humans and long after. If they've identified problems, then stop talking and go sort them out. It's the more practical way.

The planet will survive but we won’t.

[Nicky91]

yep, so that's why we need to stop climate change for the sake of our health

but we cannot do it alone, the whole world needs to work together on this

https://nltimes.nl/2019/09/25/dutch-...tion-un-speech

our dutch king willem alexander also spoke about climate change at the UN, among several items discussed there

Youtube video

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

To be honest, there's a big difference from being a political activist and doing things that all children do like sports and drama.

But yes! Look at the stories coming out with child actors in Hollywood, Corey Feldman tells a tragic story. And in football and other sports a lot of cases of abuse coming out recently.

You said she was being abused by her parents for forcing her into it. I disagree with your whole premise; you can't say she has been forced into activism, but then say there's a difference with other disciplines as It's unnecessarily selective in order to fit your narrative. The abuse you're talking about is from other people, and not because children followed their parents.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Alf

Maybe there is things that need sorting out, but the Planet is gonna be fine, it always has been, it'll survive us humans and long after. If they've identified problems, then stop talking and go sort them out. It's the more practical way.

Nobody is talking about the planet dying.

But our life on it will become extremely hard

Nobody is doing enough , that's why the kid and others campaign

It is as if you haven't listened throughout this thread

[Tom4784]

I think she's an inspiration and the fact that the Right Wingers are falling apart at the mere mention of her shows that she's doing something right.

We are approaching a point of no return and I reject any claims that she's fear mongering. We should all be scared of what the future holds if we stay on our current cause, If you have children, you should fear for what their future looks like, if you're young you should be aware of what your own future will entail.

Burying your head in the sand will not change what is going to happen, attacking Greta won't change what's been set in motion, clinging to fairy tales won't change the fact that younger generations and future generations will be dealing with the cataclysmic outcome that greed has created.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

The planet will survive but we won’t.

Well that's a given, every human born in the future is gonna die at some point.

But I'd much rather dwell on the positives of life and make the best of it I can, and try to live a honest, happy life, even though every thing out there is trying to stop you doing that.

This is getting quite morbid, which is apt, because I've been to a funeral this morning.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

yep, so that's why we need to stop climate change for the sake of our health

but we cannot do it alone, the whole world needs to work together on this

https://nltimes.nl/2019/09/25/dutch-...tion-un-speech

our dutch king willem alexander also spoke about climate change at the UN, among several items discussed there

Youtube video

Your country faces particular danger with rising seas as so much of it is below the sea level and right by the coast.
Luckily you are a rich country and can build protections

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Your country faces particular danger with rising seas as so much of it is below the sea level and right by the coast.
Luckily you are a rich country and can build protections

we already have good protections, like neeltje jans at province zeeland, which was built after some floodings in 70's if i'm correct idk precise since it was before my time

but we can renovate and build even more protections if necessary yes

[Twosugars]

I understand britain is planning to abandon some of its east coast and let it flood

[Twosugars]

A new barrier will be needed for london though

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

I understand britain is planning to abandon some of its east coast and let it flood

yes britain is surrounded by water, same goes for ireland

you'll also need good protections from possible flooding dangers