[bots]

May held a public conference and stated that it was MP's fault that no deal had been agreed inciting a people vs parliament rhetoric, but pitched from the opposite side to Boris

Parliament has always been a hot bed for argument, that's it's purpose. Has anyone listened to the language used by opposition parties? Undermining the government of the day at every possible turn. We can argue the rights and wrongs of it all we want, but the fact is, all sides in parliament are guilty of inciting division. He who casts the first stone and all that

They should all dial it back a bit, start debating in calm terms, we won't get a consensus without that.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

May held a public conference and stated that it was MP's fault that no deal had been agreed inciting a people vs parliament rhetoric, but pitched from the opposite side to Boris

Parliament has always been a hot bed for argument, that's it's purpose. Has anyone listened to the language used by opposition parties? Undermining the government of the day at every possible turn. We can argue the rights and wrongs of it all we want, but the fact is, all sides in parliament are guilty of inciting division. He who casts the first stone and all that

They should all dial it back a bit, start debating in calm terms, we won't get a consensus without that.

It's called debate..it's kind of why they're all there :/ as long as it remains within parameters, and that's the speakers job to ensure it does, then parliament is effective.

I can't recall any other time that a prime minister has had his conduct and language questioned like this, however you try to normalise it.. it isn't normal.

At this point any deal is irrelevant, whether voted for or not by whichever side. This issue concerning the PM that is corrupting parliament has to be addressed first.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes , regarding last nights
Live Parliament, you can not
Blame the PM
The Labour MP's Dragged Jo Cox's name
up first.

The Poxy BBC AM is making the
word "Surrender" as the main problem.


Humbug

Yes who was that screeching woman ? who brought Jo Cox into this disgraceful,she seems to have got off lightly and aren't the haters loving how the press are spinning this,lol, never heard such a load of humbug

[Kizzy]

I can't imagine how stressful it would be to receive death threats.. could you imagine that happening in anyone else's place of work, when a college a few years ago had been killes following threats?
But your managers reaction was 'humbug'?

I can't even....

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I can't imagine how stressful it would be to receive death threats.. could you imagine that happening in anyone else's place of work, when a college a few years ago had been killes following threats?
But your managers reaction was 'humbug'?

I can't even....

Its not nice,not even to be hinted at being threatened,believe me I know and from someone who hadn't really got their facts right.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I can't imagine how stressful it would be to receive death threats.. could you imagine that happening in anyone else's place of work, when a college a few years ago had been killes following threats?
But your managers reaction was 'humbug'?

I can't even....

I agree with Bozza, Humbug.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Alf

I agree with Bozza, Humbug.

Nowhere near surprised.

[arista]

Parliament is on again
Corbyn is there
but not JohnsonPM Live

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Parliament is on again
Corbyn is there
but not JohnsonPM Live

No surprise he isn't there then.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

No surprise he isn't there then.

He has to meetings
already set up.

[Vicky.]

I really think they should make it a requirement that MPs HAVE to be there. For ****s sake, its a large part of their job and they can just ignore it if they chose to...when important votes are going on too, it seems the place is bloody empty sometimes

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Yes who was that screeching woman ? who brought Jo Cox into this disgraceful,she seems to have got off lightly and aren't the haters loving how the press are spinning this,lol, never heard such a load of humbug

A close friend of Jo Cox.
Would you not stand up to prevent something happening to any friend of yours, if you'd had a close friend murdered brutally.

I actually fooled myself to think that's something you'd have had strong empathy with.
How badly wrong I was there.

In light of your great and right endless campaign of a brutal murder you know about.
With the outage you rightly still feel now.
In fact I get furious on that murder too.
It was evil.

I mention Jo Cox too, I canvassed wih her in elections.
I fear hearing from other MPs, and the threats they are getting now.
I fear another MP could be murdered and inflammatory language could hasten that.

[arista]

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

A close friend of Jo Cox.
Would you not stand up to prevent something happening to any friend of yours, if you'd had a close friend murdered brutally.

I actually fooled myself to think that's something you'd have had strong empathy with.
How badly wrong I was there.

In light of your great and right endless campaign of a brutal murder you know about.
With the outage you rightly still feel now.
In fact I get furious on that murder too.
It was evil.

I mention Jo Cox too, I canvassed wih her in elections.
I fear hearing from other MPs, and the threats they are getting now.
I fear another MP could be murdered and inflammatory language could hasten that.

Of course her murder was horrendous Joey,no one is denying that ,Its not fair that you seem to be implying that I don't care as I care about many things and murder is one of them, however from what I saw it was that woman who first brought Jo Cox into the debate,she didn't need to and I doubt when you have spoken about her it was to score points , anyway ,she seems to have gotten off with it and all the blame firmly laid at the PM, even the media are doing it, just seems pretty unfair to me that she was brought into it at all.and can I add it is that murder you speak about that I haven't much time for the EU as they overturned the sentence for those boys that Michael Howard had set to 15 years they got 8 in a institution ,not jail, and one keeps reoffending.

[Kizzy]

Why didn't she need to? ... Tracy Brabin who took Batley and Spen filowing the murder made the first heartfelt plea... everyone was thinking along the same lines, we're getting threatened, what if?... And they are perfectly right to question whether the pms words are inciting hatred, as Jess Phillips found out this morning they are!

So why is it wrong?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Why didn't she need to? ... Tracy Brabin who took Batley and Spen filowing the murder made the first heartfelt plea... everyone was thinking along the same lines, we're getting threatened, what if?... And they are perfectly right to question whether the pms words are inciting hatred, as Jess Phillips found out this morning they are!

So why is it wrong?

Didn't she used to go out with Terry Duckworth? and live at Jack and Vera's?

Them Duckworth's have never been trustworthy.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Of course her murder was horrendous Joey,no one is denying that ,Its not fair that you seem to be implying that I don't care as I care about many things and murder is one of them, however from what I saw it was that woman who first brought Jo Cox into the debate,she didn't need to and I doubt when you have spoken about her it was to score points , anyway ,she seems to have gotten off with it and all the blame firmly laid at the PM, even the media are doing it, just seems pretty unfair to me that she was brought into it at all.

I honestly do not understand you at all now, sorry.

She was talking in the context of dangerous inflammatory language that has been repeated in threats and death threats to MPs, mainly Female ones.

One example sadly of what can happen from fuelling hate and descriptive divisive terminology.
Was that murder of Jo Cox.
Paula was only highlighting the danger of what can result from that.

How on earth could Jo not have been mentioned in that.

Honestly.
Really Kazanne, whenever I talk to anyone and thankfully most Con supporters I talk to don't think as you do.
Even they say, we must never forget what happened to Jo.
Because it could happen to any MP from any Party now.
I often express my fears for MPs and not only MPs and mention Jo loads.
As someone who canvasses, I fear for myself too.
Just even delivering leaflets.

I have the thought of what happened to Jo always in my mind.
Knowing at present any political activity has risks.

I've had traitor said to me for just saying I'd still vote remain.
That MP you deride so easily, and others in all Parties, also have fears.

Even Jo Swinson stated last night.
She'd reported a death threat against her child to the Police.
That's how bad it is.

It's not humerous in the slightest.

[Twosugars]

Well said Joey

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I honestly do not understand you at all now, sorry.

She was talking in the context of dangerous inflammatory language that has been repeated in threats and death threats to MPs, mainly Female ones.

One example sadly of what can happen from fuelling hate and descriptive divisive terminology.
Was that murder of Jo Cox.
Paula was only highlighting the danger of what can result from that.

How on earth could Jo not have been mentioned in that.

Honestly.
Really Kazanne, whenever I talk to anyone and thankfully most Con supporters I talk to don't think as you do.
Even they say, we must never forget what happened to Jo.
Because it could happen to any MP from any Party now.
I often express my fears for MPs and not only MPs and mention Jo loads.
As someone who canvasses, I fear for myself too.
Just even delivering leaflets.

I have the thought of what happened to Jo always in my mind.
Knowing at present any political activity has risks.

I've had traitor said to me for just saying I'd still vote remain.
That MP you deride so easily, and others in all Parties, also have fears.

Even Jo Swinson stated last night.
She'd reported a death threat against her child to the Police.
That's how bad it is.

It's not humerous in the slightest.

I have NEVER said it was humerous Joey, of course we all know its not, but they could have put their points across without bringing Jo Cox up,it was inflammatory and they knew it , she was quite hysterical,no one wants her forgotten but surely this is not the way, fyi I think Boris shouldn't have mentioned her either but I do think the blame is aimed at him when it should be aimed at any of them using her murder.

[arista]

Katy Balls
Deputy Editor
on All Out Politics SkyNewsHD 09:28AM
confirmed Johnson PM has a Secret Plan
to leave the EU on the 31st October 2019.

[arista]

MP's are voting Right Now
a Recess until next Thursday
for the Conservative Conference.

[arista]

289 Yes
306 No


[MPs have voted against allowing a parliamentary recess
for the Conservative Party conference.
For: 289
Against: 306]



So Lost the Vote
still set to have the Manchester Conservative Conference
starting Saturday

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I have NEVER said it was humerous Joey, of course we all know its not, but they could have put their points across without bringing Jo Cox up,it was inflammatory and they knew it , she was quite hysterical,no one wants her forgotten but surely this is not the way, fyi I think Boris shouldn't have mentioned her either but I do think the blame is aimed at him when it should be aimed at any of them using her murder.

We'll never agree.
I give up.

[arista]

[arista]

Debate Live In Parliament Now until 5PM.
Principles Of Democracy Debate
which about making sure everyone has Voter ID.

Not many MP's there/