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Kazanne · 26-09-2019, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele

I think you'll find it was the European court of human rights, which ruled on the Bulger case.
The ECHR is not the EU court.

The ECHR we have been signed up to since the 50s..
Over 40 Nations are signed up to it.
Even Russia I think.
We'd still be in that when we leave the EU.
We were in it, even before joining the Common Market in the 70s

The EU court, is the European court of justice.
Of which only EU members are part of and subject to.
That's the one we would leave.

Thanks for the info Joey,I didn't know that.I thought they were part of it

joeysteele · 26-09-2019, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

Thanks for the info Joey,I didn't know that.I thought they were part of it

Kazanne, I think most people do.
I had confusion on it but it was when looking over my notes from Uni I did on special poor Jamie's brutal murder.
Bless him.

Where I read it was the European court of Human rights who heard his case.
Then gave that shocking ruling.

arista · 27-09-2019, 02:22 AM

arista · 27-09-2019, 02:26 AM

arista · 27-09-2019, 03:19 AM

Last night Newsnight BBC2HD
Nick Watt
Order of Council via Privy Council
Johnson PM can suspend the Act of Parliament
Halting any Extension.

arista · 27-09-2019, 07:03 AM

Video : Cocky Labour MP Walks over
to Adviser Dominic Cummings
: Dom tells him to Get Brexit Done
Next to Cummings is a Ch4HDNews reporter

https://news.sky.com/video/mp-confro...reats-11820373

bots · 27-09-2019, 07:51 AM

the death threats toward MP's started long before Boris became PM, so lets not start laying the blame at his table. There was a lot wrong with May, but she never incited anything close to violence and yet the problem was just as bad then as it is now.

user104658 · 27-09-2019, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the death threats toward MP's started long before Boris became PM, so lets not start laying the blame at his table. There was a lot wrong with May, but she never incited anything close to violence and yet the problem was just as bad then as it is now.

I don't think MPs are laying blame on him, they know it's an ongoing problem, they're (quite understandably) scared and asking him to tone down the extremist rhetoric in case it sets off someone unstable. Which quite frankly is a completely reasonable expectation of ANY politician, let alone the Prime Minister but hey its 2019 so "blrrrr humbug" I guess.

bots · 27-09-2019, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I don't think MPs are laying blame on him, they know it's an ongoing problem, they're (quite understandably) scared and asking him to tone down the extremist rhetoric in case it sets off someone unstable. Which quite frankly is a completely reasonable expectation of ANY politician, let alone the Prime Minister but hey its 2019 so "blrrrr humbug" I guess.

as you well know, it takes 2 sides to make an argument. It's like little kids goading someone until they lose their temper and then say got ya. For labour to act all innocent is a joke, and they know it.

Kazanne · 27-09-2019, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the death threats toward MP's started long before Boris became PM, so lets not start laying the blame at his table. There was a lot wrong with May, but she never incited anything close to violence and yet the problem was just as bad then as it is now.

I do think now they are saying they are scared for their lives etc,they are actually giving the nutters in the country information they will relish,and have you seen Jess Phillips office ? talk about advertising yourself . I know to be an MP you have to be somewhat visible, saying you are scared of being attacked just gives these nutters an excuse and their 15 mins of fame.Didn't the same Jess Phillips once say' I wont only stab you in the back,I will stab you in the front' talk about hypocrite, but humbug and surrender are far worse.

Kazanne · 27-09-2019, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele

Kazanne, I think most people do.
I had confusion on it but it was when looking over my notes from Uni I did on special poor Jamie's brutal murder.
Bless him.

Where I read it was the European court of Human rights who heard his case.
Then gave that shocking ruling.

It was shocking Joey and very wrong for them to interfere in that.

user104658 · 27-09-2019, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

as you well know, it takes 2 sides to make an argument. It's like little kids goading someone until they lose their temper and then say got ya. For labour to act all innocent is a joke, and they know it.

Aww poor Boris

... the mean kids poked him with sticks and so he just h-h-h-h-HAD to lash out at them.

He is the prime minister. Come on.

arista · 27-09-2019, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Aww poor Boris

... the mean kids poked him with sticks and so he just h-h-h-h-HAD to lash out at them.

He is the prime minister. Come on.

Yes he can take it.
Dominic Cummings New Plan
is Great

I mean TS that Poxy Supreme Court Said Parliament
must return.
And Last Night they Closed until Monday,
On Monday many Conservatives will be in Manchester
at their Own Conference.

30 Days to go and we Leave

jet · 27-09-2019, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Aww poor Boris

... the mean kids poked him with sticks and so he just h-h-h-h-HAD to lash out at them.

He is the prime minister. Come on.

I thought the opposite. THEY were lashing out at him and he didn't show any temper. He was just the usual bouncy, blunt him. After all the knocks he has taken, deserved or otherwise, he just keeps on keeping on. I want whatever he's on.

user104658 · 27-09-2019, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by jet

I want whatever he's on.

We all do. "What he's on" is "an international bank balance big enough to not have to worry about it".

But I disagree that he's not bothered, the one thing he does have to lose is his ego and I think he's furious that he doesn't seem to be able to just lob his weight around like a mini Trump. He seems the same as ever because "bouncy Boris" is an act he's been honing since his teens. There's a documentary about his school days / early career around somewhere... it's fascinating. But yeah, his Boris persona (it's not even his real name) is attached to his face with Flex Tape. It's going nowhere and you can't trust that his demeanor reflects his thoughts 99% of the time. When it does slip, there are glimpses of the frustration of an arrogant man who isn't quite getting the world to mould around him.

The Slim Reaper · 27-09-2019, 09:37 AM

arista · 27-09-2019, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Yes The Whole Nation
is Turned Upside Down

Its now Leave Vs Remain
in our next General Election.

The Slim Reaper · 27-09-2019, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by arista

Yes The Whole Nation
is Turned Upside Down

Its now Leave Vs Remain
in our next General Election.

That's not the point; the city that rejects the Murdoch press is against leave, whereas the one that doesn't, wants to leave. Shows the devastating ability of the press to feed lies and propaganda into the public consciousness.

arista · 27-09-2019, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

That's not the point; the city that rejects the Murdoch press is against leave, whereas the one that doesn't, wants to leave. Shows the devastating ability of the press to feed lies and propaganda into the public consciousness.

Yes Sorry I skipped that OLD point

arista · 27-09-2019, 10:01 AM

Utter Bliss

user104658 · 27-09-2019, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

That's not the point; the city that rejects the Murdoch press is against leave, whereas the one that doesn't, wants to leave. Shows the devastating ability of the press to feed lies and propaganda into the public consciousness.

The Sun Newspaper might be literally one of the worst things in the world.

Alf · 27-09-2019, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

That's not the point; the city that rejects the Murdoch press is against leave, whereas the one that doesn't, wants to leave. Shows the devastating ability of the press to feed lies and propaganda into the public consciousness.

Or maybe they just bought the Daily Mirror instead?

The Slim Reaper · 27-09-2019, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Alf

Or maybe they just bought the Daily Mirror instead?

Youtube video

Twosugars · 27-09-2019, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by arista

Last night Newsnight BBC2HD
Nick Watt
Order of Council via Privy Council
Johnson PM can suspend the Act of Parliament
Halting any Extension.

Not happening

The constitutional position is simple

It is not open to the government, by Order in Council or side letter or a message written on the side of a startled cow, to do a thing which circumvents or frustrates a statute

Public law 101, 1968 case of Padfield

And any attempt at such tomfoolery can and would be quashed by the High Court on the basic Padfield constitutional principle within a couple of days, if not a few hours

Principle so basic it would not need to go to Supreme Court

The Guardian

Alf · 27-09-2019, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Youtube video

You should have used Janis Joplin's "Maybe" I'd have enjoyed that more.

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