[arista]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

BREAKING NEWS

Child learns to cross road without being slapped

'tis a miracle in October!

Yes But a Toddler runs across a Road
is Very Dangerous

A Good Smack
stops that - saving the Life of a Toddler

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

BREAKING NEWS

Child learns to cross road without being slapped

'tis a miracle in October!

But yeah bloody hell, they don't recommend slapping dogs to "train" them, why is it a good way to train a child ffs

[Alf]

Not only should parents be allowed to smack their child, but so should teachers.

We're animals, we need to be taught wrong from right from a young age.

Anybody who doesn't give their disobedient child a slap is failing their child in the game of life. And for what? So they can think themselves virtuous.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

Not only should parents be allowed to smack their child, but so should teachers.

We're animals, we need to be taught wrong from right from a young age.

Anybody who doesn't give their disobedient child a slap is failing their child in the game of life. And for what? So they can think themselves virtuous.

Again this logic that not smacking = no discipline/bad children. Lazy parenting

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Alf

Not only should parents be allowed to smack their child, but so should teachers.

We're animals, we need to be taught wrong from right from a young age.

Anybody who doesn't give their disobedient child a slap is failing their child in the game of life. And for what? So they can think themselves virtuous.

If you have to resort to hitting a disobedient child, that's when your failing your child.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

If you have to resort to hitting a disobedient child, that's when your failing your child.

Exactly, it's like there is no other way to discipline or teach your kids, maybe some parenting classes or something might help if people really can't think of any other possible way to teach their child other than violence

[Alf]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

If you have to resort to hitting a disobedient child, that's when your failing your child.

Your parents would have had corporal punishment as a deterrent growing up, did they turn out failures?

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Alf

Your parents would have had corporal punishment as a deterrent growing up, did they turn out failures?

Lol, what does that prove? Lots of high profile murderers were probably smacked as children and went on to be abusers.....corporal punishment did them the world of good.

I am older than you Alf I think, my school had corporal punishment, my dad never hit me but my mum did on occasion, didn't stop me doing what I was doing though. I choose not to smack my child as violence never solves anything. He is a good kid and knows when I raise my voice or change my tone that he is doing something wrong. At the age he is now (nearly 9), the threat of losing football privileges etc would hurt him far more than a slap and teach him far better.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Lol, what does that prove? Lots of high profile murderers were probably smacked as children and went on to be abusers.....corporal punishment did them the world of good.

I am older than you Alf I think, my school had corporal punishment, my dad never hit me but my mum did on occasion, didn't stop me doing what I was doing though. I choose not to smack my child as violence never solves anything. He is a good kid and knows when I raise my voice or change my tone that he is doing something wrong. At the age he is now (nearly 9), the threat of losing football privileges etc would hurt him far more than a slap and teach him far better.

Well if you want to bring up your children that way, then that's fair enough, but it shouldn't be up to you or any law to how other people raise their children.

We know that most of our parents had it as a deterrent and yes corporal punishment was still a thing when I started school. So we know it's not as bad as what people today are making out.

[The Slim Reaper]

[Alf]

Your problem is that you can't see the difference between an educational slap and beating a child. There is a difference.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Alf

Your problem is that you can't see the difference between an educational slap and beating a child. There is a difference.

My problem is hitting a child for any reason is not necessary.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

Your problem is that you can't see the difference between an educational slap and beating a child. There is a difference.

Educational and Slap really don't belong together

[Alf]

If it's legal for adults to drink alcohol and smoke, then it should be for kids.

Yeah right.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

If it's legal for adults to drink alcohol and smoke, then it should be for kids.

Yeah right.

That makes zero sense but ok...........

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Alf

If it's legal for adults to drink alcohol and smoke, then it should be for kids.

Yeah right.

We don't allow kids to drink or smoke to protect their well being.....which is another reason why this ban is a logical move

[Alf]

In 10 years time, Scotland will be the child abuse capital of the west. Because some parents ain't gonna listen to this law, and for giving their unruly child a smacked arse, they might be thrown in prison and even have their child taken away from them. The child loses out, by losing their parents.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

In 10 years time, Scotland will be the child abuse capital of the west. Because some parents ain't gonna listen to this law, and for giving their unruly child a smacked arse, they might be thrown in prison and even have their child taken away from them. The child loses out, by losing their parents.

What a fantastical leap

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Alf

In 10 years time, Scotland will be the child abuse capital of the west. Because some parents ain't gonna listen to this law, and for giving their unruly child a smacked arse, they might be thrown in prison and even have their child taken away from them. The child loses out, by losing their parents.

Having young kids myself I know tonnes of parents and - thankfully - I can't think of many who would hit their kids anyway, ban or no ban. So I think your worried visions of swathes of parents off to jail are probably premature.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Having young kids myself I know tonnes of parents and - thankfully - I can't think of many who would hit their kids anyway, ban or no ban. So I think your worried visions of swathes of parents off to jail are probably premature.

What's the law being introduced for then?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

What's the law being introduced for then?

Because hitting people is bad.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Having young kids myself I know tonnes of parents and - thankfully - I can't think of many who would hit their kids anyway, ban or no ban. So I think your worried visions of swathes of parents off to jail are probably premature.

The ban has been in Ireland since 2015 (iirc) and our jails haven't over flowed yet anyway

[Alf]

I've just Google'd "Parent sent to jail for smacking child" there's cases.

One mother was released after a judge said
"her actions were similar to many loving parents across the land"

[Vicky.]

I agree with this I think

I also disagree that smacking is used as a means of dicipline, rather than the adult losing control of their temper..in the huge majority of cases anyway. I have smacked Skye once, never James. I felt so guilty too, and convinced mysef it was to teach her to behave, when really, it was a result of me losing it rather than anything else.

Also 'a tap' or whatever people say, its not that as a tap would..well not even slightly shock the child..which is apparently the reason for the 'tap'. I think many lie to themselves about it all tbh, I know I did for a while til I thought about it properly.

I think its slightly..dangerous to put smacking in the same category as beating mind.

[Alf]

You're all probably right, it's probably a lack of Youth clubs why children are now regularly stabbing each other to death on the streets.

A hug will sort them out.