[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Morgan.

I didn’t criticise them for game playing, I criticised them for pretending they weren’t. If you’re gonna do what it takes to get to the top and win then be honest about it.

Especially on the circle where you’re alone 99% of the time, other players aren’t gonna know if you’re secretly scheming or playing a game. Idk why it’s such a taboo and players such as Tim, Ella and Woody are trying to hide it.

"Not playing the game" is also a way of playing the game.
Why should you announce your tactics?

At least they haven't pretended they're in it for charity reasons like saint Sammie, the revolutionary manipulator

Why you not having a go at Sammie for pretending he's not in it for the money?

You criticize one bull**** and but swallow another.

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

"Not playing the game" is also a way of playing the game.
Why should you announce your tactics?

At least they haven't pretended they're in it for charity reasons like saint Sammie, the revolutionary manipulator

Why you not having a go at Sammie for pretending he's not in it for the money?

You criticize one bull**** and but swallow another.

You should announce your tactics because there’s no consequence. Let the viewers know what you’re thinking, how you’re wanting to play. There’s no harm in it and it just makes you look less fake Yeah lie to the players but why lie to the viewers lmao

And as for the Sammie thing, I don’t get your point? He’s not pretending he’s not in it for the money - he wouldn’t be trying so hard to win if he didn’t care about the money Yeah tell the players it’s going to charity or whatever that’s gameplay - but he’s openly said to the public a few times how much he wants the money.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Morgan.

You should announce your tactics because there’s no consequence. Let the viewers know what you’re thinking, how you’re wanting to play. There’s no harm in it and it just makes you look less fake Yeah lie to the players but why lie to the viewers lmao

And as for the Sammie thing, I don’t get your point? He’s not pretending he’s not in it for the money - he wouldn’t be trying so hard to win if he didn’t care about the money Yeah tell the players it’s going to charity or whatever that’s gameplay - but he’s openly said to the public a few times how much he wants the money.

Exactly

All this OTT hate and making out Sammie is a nasty person is ridiculous. He came to win, he came for the money and that’s what he’s trying to do. Harmless. At least he’s being honest about it all.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Morgan.

You should announce your tactics because there’s no consequence. Let the viewers know what you’re thinking, how you’re wanting to play. There’s no harm in it and it just makes you look less fake Yeah lie to the players but why lie to the viewers lmao

And as for the Sammie thing, I don’t get your point? He’s not pretending he’s not in it for the money - he wouldn’t be trying so hard to win if he didn’t care about the money Yeah tell the players it’s going to charity or whatever that’s gameplay - but he’s openly said to the public a few times how much he wants the money.

Originally Posted by LukeB

Exactly

All this OTT hate and making out Sammie is a nasty person is ridiculous. He came to win, he came for the money and that’s what he’s trying to do. Harmless. At least he’s being honest about it all.

You both seem to forget catfishing and lying is not compulsory in this game.
It's perfectly ok to just be yourself and hope to win based on that.
My personal preference is for those I consider most real. In this case Woody and Georgina. Yours is for a most skillful deceiver.
We'll have to leave it at that.
Just don't expect your favourite not to get criticized if you criticize others.
I never said Sammie was a nasty person, I simply don't buy his bull****. The same way you don't buy others'.

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

You both seem to forget catfishing and lying is not compulsory in this game.
It's perfectly ok to just be yourself and hope to win based on that.
My personal preference is for those I consider most real. In this case Woody and Georgina. Yours is for a most skillful deceiver.
We'll have to leave it at that.
Just don't expect your favourite not to get criticized if you criticize others.
I never said Sammie was a nasty person, I simply don't buy his bull****. The same way you don't buy others'.

No it’s not compulsory but it’s definitely encouraged.

I actually like Georgina and actually Woody too - I don’t prefer game over being real really I just like supporting people that deserve to win and you can’t say James doesn’t deserve to win after he’s literally had to work his ass off with notepads full of notes and things to remember over 4 weeks.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Morgan.

No it’s not compulsory but it’s definitely encouraged.

I actually like Georgina and actually Woody too - I don’t prefer game over being real really I just like supporting people that deserve to win and you can’t say James doesn’t deserve to win after he’s literally had to work his ass off with notepads full of notes and things to remember over 4 weeks.

He was lucky. Didnt he slip up early over not knowing Frozen?
The others have no experience of having a child. All I've seen is him offer some bland **** how he misses his child

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

He was lucky. Didnt he slip up early over not knowing Frozen?
The others have no experience of having a child. All I've seen is him offer some bland **** how he misses his child

How non have them have clicked on about his refusal to properly discuss the child

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

He was lucky. Didnt he slip up early over not knowing Frozen?
The others have no experience of having a child. All I've seen is him offer some bland **** how he misses his child

Frozen came out 6 years ago Sammies child wasn’t even born then

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

You both seem to forget catfishing and lying is not compulsory in this game.
It's perfectly ok to just be yourself and hope to win based on that.
My personal preference is for those I consider most real. In this case Woody and Georgina. Yours is for a most skillful deceiver.
We'll have to leave it at that.
Just don't expect your favourite not to get criticized if you criticize others.
I never said Sammie was a nasty person, I simply don't buy his bull****. The same way you don't buy others'.

But catfishing is encouraged and it’s perfectly okay to be a catfish on this show. No one has an issue with people being themselves and it’s not like Woody hasn’t lied himself but that’s fine because it’s part of the same the criticising is more to do with them not gameplay, none of us have an issue with them either.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by LukeB

But catfishing is encouraged and it’s perfectly okay to be a catfish on this show. No one has an issue with people being themselves and it’s not like Woody hasn’t lied himself but that’s fine because it’s part of the same the criticising is more to do with them not gameplay, none of us have an issue with them either.

Glad we agree.
I dont like him for his whiny voice and cockiness.
And flaunting his body which I find ott
And for using a child. I know its allowed but I dont like it
What would happen if they all used a child? I'd like that to happen

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Glad we agree.
I dont like him for his whiny voice and cockiness.
And flaunting his body which I find ott
And for using a child. I know its allowed but I dont like it
What would happen if they all used a child? I'd like that to happen

Id normally agree with you but many former players have said if they weren’t being filmed they’d have done the same because the flats aren’t fitted with normal lighting - theyre studio lights and for someone that spends a lot of time in studios I know how hot and bright they are.

[RileyH]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

And flaunting his body which I find ott

Strange thing to hear coming from you

[Denver]

Originally Posted by LukeB

But catfishing is encouraged and it’s perfectly okay to be a catfish on this show. No one has an issue with people being themselves and it’s not like Woody hasn’t lied himself but that’s fine because it’s part of the same the criticising is more to do with them not gameplay, none of us have an issue with them either.

Woody not disclosing his famous parents is hardly lying

[Raxton]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

Woody not disclosing his famous parents is hardly lying

I love Woody, but he did lied about being single as well

[Raxton]

Originally Posted by Morgan.

You should announce your tactics because there’s no consequence. Let the viewers know what you’re thinking, how you’re wanting to play. There’s no harm in it and it just makes you look less fake Yeah lie to the players but why lie to the viewers lmao

And as for the Sammie thing, I don’t get your point? He’s not pretending he’s not in it for the money - he wouldn’t be trying so hard to win if he didn’t care about the money Yeah tell the players it’s going to charity or whatever that’s gameplay - but he’s openly said to the public a few times how much he wants the money.

From season 1, you do realize there is a viewers winner right?
We are also part of the game

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Raxton

From season 1, you do realize there is a viewers winner right?
We are also part of the game

Viewers winner only wins a small amount of money, doesn’t actually make you a winner of the circle a fan favourite award isn’t that important like winning the actual game.

[Raxton]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Viewers winner only wins a small amount of money, doesn’t actually make you a winner of the circle a fan favourite award isn’t that important like winning the actual game.

I know, but my point is "not announcing your tactics" is also a part of the game
Since the viewers also got a say in the game itself...

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by Raxton

From season 1, you do realize there is a viewers winner right?
We are also part of the game

Yep, and a catfish who was extremely open about playing the game and using tactics won that so they have no reason to hide the fact they want to do well