[Dogeatdog]

Originally Posted by Morgan.

The thing that annoys me is that Tim, Ella and Woody obviously all desperately want to win and believe they can - but they won’t admit it and instead fall to the ‘I’m just here for the experience it’s not about the money’ excuse when at the end of the day they signed up to a game where you vote people out and win a cash prize at the end.

I’d say Ella out of these 3 is the most desperate to win. She’s playing a very shady game of brown nosing people saying she “has everyone’s back” to get where she needs to.

I understand it’s a game and you will do whatever it takes to try to win the show but she is someone who has gone in there and has chosen to play as herself. So when it comes to brown nosing people and saying to different people she has their backs is this what she is genuinely like as a person on the outside? It just looks really two faced and sly and that isn’t the sort of person I would want to win especially if that is themselves being genuine.

At least with James, he has chosen to play as a different person, which is difficult enough as it is and comes with having to lie to people to convince that he is real. Also he has at least admitted that whilst he feels bad for deceiving the other contestants he is their purely to win. His game plan is going very well and it’s actually been pretty entertaining to watch even though it is something I personally couldn’t do myself.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Tony Montana

He's playing the game on a gameshow. I don't see what the problem is.

Yeah god forbid anyone playing a game on a gameshow

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

It's sad to see Georgina manipulated this way. Sammie will throw anyone under the bus if it benefits him.

Why was it ok for Tim to throw Brooke under the bus ? . I know you didn't like Brooke but the whole "scholarsquad" was fake on his part just to save Tim's own skin , he acts like he's everyone's friend when really he probably only cares about Woody & Ella . And he'd still love to beat them in the competition despite him gushing at the idea of woody deserving to win more than him . He's just trying to sound like the sweet selfless old Santa Claus

He'll throw Sammi & Georgina under the bus if push comes to shove. It's obvious he wants to win . I'm not a big Sammi fan but he's playing the game & he knows he'll get back stabbed so he probably wants to get their first.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Why was it ok for Tim to throw Brooke under the bus ? . I know you didn't like Brooke but the whole "scholarsquad" was fake on his part just to save Tim's own skin , he acts like he's everyone's friend when really he probably only cares about Woody & Ella . And he'd still love to beat them in the competition despite him gushing at the idea of woody deserving to win more than him . He's just trying to sound like the sweet selfless old Santa Claus

He'll throw Sammi & Georgina under the bus if push comes to shove. It's obvious he wants to win . I'm not a big Sammi fan but he's playing the game & he knows he'll get back stabbed so he probably wants to get their first.

I just don't want Georgina to suffer, if Sammie's game is found out by the others.
She can't see she's being used.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Part of the game.

Originally Posted by Tony Montana

He's playing the game on a gameshow. I don't see what the problem is.

Who said there was a problem? Who said it wasn't part of the game?

I'm only responding bc Sammie supporters here were criticizing others for "playing the game".

We all choose who we like and how we like the game played.
Some of us prefer those who don't deceive, others like skillful deceivers.

[Morgan.]

See people complaining about game playing on bb I could tolerate because it was a social experiment and for many it was really about the experience and human experience.

But the circle is literally meant for game playing. The only objective is to be the most popular - and everyone whether they’re catfishing or not is doing something to be popular. Tim is socialising with everyone and making sure he’s always energetic and happy, woody is making himself more relatable, Sammie is posing as a single mum. They’re all doing something to be the most popular.

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I just don't want Georgina to suffer, if Sammie's game is found out by the others.
She can't see she's being used.

Georgina being used? She literally came up with the idea of going against the grain and getting Tim out the moment Brooke was blocked

[Vanessa]

Ella does not deserve to go. Like her or not, she has contributed a lot to the show.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Morgan.

See people complaining about game playing on bb I could tolerate because it was a social experiment and for many it was really about the experience and human experience.

But the circle is literally meant for game playing. The only objective is to be the most popular - and everyone whether they’re catfishing or not is doing something to be popular. Tim is socialising with everyone and making sure he’s always energetic and happy, woody is making himself more relatable, Sammie is posing as a single mum. They’re all doing something to be the most popular.

so why you criticized them for it in the previous post?

You Sammie supporters can't be annoyed at me or others supporting our favourites and disliking Sammie's game if you do the same to other players.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Morgan.

Georgina being used? She literally came up with the idea of going against the grain and getting Tim out the moment Brooke was blocked

She's being used by Sammie. Yes I know she's angry at Tim about Brooke. That's understandable, she was her best mate.

[Twosugars]

Let's be honest, Sammie doesn't give a **** about Paddy or Georgina. He only needs them as foot soldiers to launch his assault on others.
If successful he'd expect them to crown him the winner bc he "saved" them and he was the brains behind the operation.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Let's be honest, Sammie doesn't give a **** about Paddy or Georgina. He only needs them as foot soldiers to launch his assault on others.
If successful he'd expect them to crown him the winner bc he "saved" them and he was the brains behind the operation.

Exactly. This is why I prefer Tim, Ella and Woody. I just hope Tim sticks to his guns. James is very manipulative.

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

so why you criticized them for it in the previous post?

You Sammie supporters can't be annoyed at me or others supporting our favourites and disliking Sammie's game if you do the same to other players.

I didn’t criticise them for game playing, I criticised them for pretending they weren’t. If you’re gonna do what it takes to get to the top and win then be honest about it.

Especially on the circle where you’re alone 99% of the time, other players aren’t gonna know if you’re secretly scheming or playing a game. Idk why it’s such a taboo and players such as Tim, Ella and Woody are trying to hide it.

[Vanessa]

I won't be too hard on Georgina. I know she's lost her best friend and she's angry. But Sammie and Paddy I really don't like them at all.

[Raxton]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Why was it ok for Tim to throw Brooke under the bus ? . I know you didn't like Brooke but the whole "scholarsquad" was fake on his part just to save Tim's own skin , he acts like he's everyone's friend when really he probably only cares about Woody & Ella . And he'd still love to beat them in the competition despite him gushing at the idea of woody deserving to win more than him . He's just trying to sound like the sweet selfless old Santa Claus

He'll throw Sammi & Georgina under the bus if push comes to shove. It's obvious he wants to win . I'm not a big Sammi fan but he's playing the game & he knows he'll get back stabbed so he probably wants to get their first.

If you notice sammie way of persuading Tim, you would notice that Tim consider the best interest for the circle.. Not just himself, and thats his weak point that is being taken advantage of by both sammie & ella in the past.

And from what i get, Scholarsquad is dead way before brooke got eliminated..
Tim rate Georgina #3, Brooke #5
Georgina rate Tim #5

Only Brooke seems to think its still alive basically lol

And from 1 of Brooke's interview, apparently Tim once try to expand the Scholarsquad? Weird that it isnt shown tbh..

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Morgan.

I didn’t criticise them for game playing, I criticised them for pretending they weren’t. If you’re gonna do what it takes to get to the top and win then be honest about it.

Especially on the circle where you’re alone 99% of the time, other players aren’t gonna know if you’re secretly scheming or playing a game. Idk why it’s such a taboo and players such as Tim, Ella and Woody are trying to hide it.

"Not playing the game" is also a way of playing the game.
Why should you announce your tactics?

At least they haven't pretended they're in it for charity reasons like saint Sammie, the revolutionary manipulator

Why you not having a go at Sammie for pretending he's not in it for the money?

You criticize one bull**** and but swallow another.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Raxton

If you notice sammie way of persuading Tim, you would notice that Tim consider the best interest for the circle.. Not just himself, and thats his weak point that is being taken advantage of by both sammie & ella in the past.

And from what i get, Scholarsquad is dead way before brooke got eliminated..
Tim rate Georgina #3, Brooke #5
Georgina rate Tim #5

Only Brooke seems to think its still alive basically lol

And from 1 of Brooke's interview, apparently Tim once try to expand the Scholarsquad? Weird that it isnt shown tbh..

That's what I like about Tim. He considers what's best for the group, he isn't selfish.

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

"Not playing the game" is also a way of playing the game.
Why should you announce your tactics?

At least they haven't pretended they're in it for charity reasons like saint Sammie, the revolutionary manipulator

Why you not having a go at Sammie for pretending he's not in it for the money?

You criticize one bull**** and but swallow another.

You should announce your tactics because there’s no consequence. Let the viewers know what you’re thinking, how you’re wanting to play. There’s no harm in it and it just makes you look less fake Yeah lie to the players but why lie to the viewers lmao

And as for the Sammie thing, I don’t get your point? He’s not pretending he’s not in it for the money - he wouldn’t be trying so hard to win if he didn’t care about the money Yeah tell the players it’s going to charity or whatever that’s gameplay - but he’s openly said to the public a few times how much he wants the money.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Raxton

If you notice sammie way of persuading Tim, you would notice that Tim consider the best interest for the circle.. Not just himself, and thats his weak point that is being taken advantage of by both sammie & ella in the past.

And from what i get, Scholarsquad is dead way before brooke got eliminated..
Tim rate Georgina #3, Brooke #5
Georgina rate Tim #5

Only Brooke seems to think its still alive basically lol

And from 1 of Brooke's interview, apparently Tim once try to expand the Scholarsquad? Weird that it isnt shown tbh..

Expand scholarsquad ?? I never knew about that ,does that mean he tried adding other players to that clique.

It just feels like Tim was more worried about his own well being ,he's the one that clung onto Sammi originally as he knew a single mother with a cute baby photo would be popular.

He admitted to being needy when he kept wanting private chats with Sammi, fair enough play the game but don't act like an innocent old man. He had me fooled in the first week , but he's definitely more ruthless . Even the other players see that.

Yes he mentions what's best for the circle but it's still tactics .

Georgina is playing a good game , just hope she doesn't get back stabbed.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Morgan.

You should announce your tactics because there’s no consequence. Let the viewers know what you’re thinking, how you’re wanting to play. There’s no harm in it and it just makes you look less fake Yeah lie to the players but why lie to the viewers lmao

And as for the Sammie thing, I don’t get your point? He’s not pretending he’s not in it for the money - he wouldn’t be trying so hard to win if he didn’t care about the money Yeah tell the players it’s going to charity or whatever that’s gameplay - but he’s openly said to the public a few times how much he wants the money.

Exactly

All this OTT hate and making out Sammie is a nasty person is ridiculous. He came to win, he came for the money and that’s what he’s trying to do. Harmless. At least he’s being honest about it all.

[Raxton]

Originally Posted by Morgan.

You should announce your tactics because there’s no consequence. Let the viewers know what you’re thinking, how you’re wanting to play. There’s no harm in it and it just makes you look less fake Yeah lie to the players but why lie to the viewers lmao

And as for the Sammie thing, I don’t get your point? He’s not pretending he’s not in it for the money - he wouldn’t be trying so hard to win if he didn’t care about the money Yeah tell the players it’s going to charity or whatever that’s gameplay - but he’s openly said to the public a few times how much he wants the money.

From season 1, you do realize there is a viewers winner right?
We are also part of the game

[Oliver_W]

Whaa the end is nearly here, and I haven't posted at all gonna run through my thoughts!

Ella: Playing a great game - she's obviously very likeable and gregarious, and she's also casting a wide net and "brown nosing" a fair bit.

Woody: He's a fun guy, he reminds me of some of my "gig friends" - I don't really see them day to day, but when we're going to gigs around the country we meet up.

Tim: I want to adopt him as my gramps <3 he's got a lot to say, you could probably speak to him for hours.

"Sammie"/James: Playing a good game.

Georgina: I liked her at the beginning, I liked her and Brooke. Without Brooke there she just seems miserable and bitchy.

"Josh"/Busayo: She'd have been more liked if she went in as herself tbh. She doesn't seem to have put any thought into anything though She seems to make up her cover story on the fly, and knows she wants to "start a school" but only as a concept, she's not done a scrap of research into it.

Paddy: Urgh. There's just nothing there - everything he says is basically "I want this guy to **** me", and he doesn't know anything! The Berlin Wall as a few years before I was born, and I know of that. Who on earth gets to his age without at least hearing of Wind in the Willows or knowing that Vincent van Gogh had one ear?! He's just a cardboard cutout of a gay.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Whaa the end is nearly here, and I haven't posted at all gonna run through my thoughts!

Ella: Playing a great game - she's obviously very likeable and gregarious, and she's also casting a wide net and "brown nosing" a fair bit.

Woody: He's a fun guy, he reminds me of some of my "gig friends" - I don't really see them day to day, but when we're going to gigs around the country we meet up.

Tim: I want to adopt him as my gramps <3 he's got a lot to say, you could probably speak to him for hours.

"Sammie"/James: Playing a good game.

Georgina: I liked her at the beginning, I liked her and Brooke. Without Brooke there she just seems miserable and bitchy.

"Josh"/Busayo: She'd have been more liked if she went in as herself tbh. She doesn't seem to have put any thought into anything though She seems to make up her cover story on the fly, and knows she wants to "start a school" but only as a concept, she's not done a scrap of research into it.

Paddy: Urgh. There's just nothing there - everything he says is basically "I want this guy to **** me", and he doesn't know anything! The Berlin Wall as a few years before I was born, and I know of that. Who on earth gets to his age without at least hearing of Wind in the Willows or knowing that Vincent van Gogh had one ear?! He's just a cardboard cutout of a gay.

Same. I adore Tim and Bea

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Raxton

From season 1, you do realize there is a viewers winner right?
We are also part of the game

Viewers winner only wins a small amount of money, doesn’t actually make you a winner of the circle a fan favourite award isn’t that important like winning the actual game.

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by Raxton

From season 1, you do realize there is a viewers winner right?
We are also part of the game

Yep, and a catfish who was extremely open about playing the game and using tactics won that so they have no reason to hide the fact they want to do well