[Beso]

Election on wedensday the 11th.

[arista]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Election on wedensday the 11th.

Yes thats one date that is possible

Also Thursday 12th possible

[bots]

i think the variations in brexit between the tories and the brexit party, and then the variations on ref/revoke make this a very difficult election to predict. Also, elections are weird, what party's think is the key issue often isn't what decides things as something else pops out (like May and her treatment of the elderly in the last election). All I want is for it to come out with a conclusive result and be over quickly.

[Liam-]

With the Brexit party taking votes from the Tories and Lib Dem’s taking away from Labour, it’s going to be a touchy election to fight, I think it’s inevitable that we’ll end up with a Tory/BXP coalition and then we’re well and truly ****ed

[arista]

Originally Posted by Liam-

With the Brexit party taking votes from the Tories and Lib Dem’s taking away from Labour, it’s going to be a touchy election to fight, I think it’s inevitable that we’ll end up with a Tory/BXP coalition and then we’re well and truly ****ed

Hang on
Labour Leave Zones
vote Brexit Party
they have loads of New paying members


Great General Election
Many bad MP's get Washed away
From Labour , LibDem, Indie Group, SNP , Conservative
and others



A Vote will now go through Today
in Parliament as Labour Demand a December Election
he is read to go.

[arista]

Dumb Barry Shearman MP
was just live on SkyNewsHD
does not want this December Election

But All of Corbyns cabinet do

[MTVN]

The Brexit party might get a small vote share but I highly doubt they will win any seats, a good chunk of their support has already drifted back to the Tories anyway

[Oliver_W]

I'm not sure how this will go tbh ... If May's snap election had happened instantly, the Tories would easily have a comfortable majority. But during the campaigns she machine gunned herself in the foot, while Corbyn was still fresh and managed to seem not like a joke, so as the date crept nearer it was obvious more people would vote for their Labour MPs.

This one? It's harder to call; Corbyn's shine has worn off a bit, and I think people still like Boris. But I also think people are sick of the perceived austerity, and think Corbyn will be the one to fix it.

My guess would be another coalition, with the coalescence giving whoever the PM is about 55% of the house, rather than a strong majority.

[arista]

Labour's Stella Creasy MP
Has chucked a spanner in the works
Live Parliament.
She wants Amendments

It appears Corbyn
can not control his MP's?

[arista]

Creasy MP WON

Yes 312
No 295


Amendments are now being put forward

[arista]

The PM is talking Live in Parliament
now

[user104658]

Originally Posted by MTVN

The Brexit party might get a small vote share but I highly doubt they will win any seats, a good chunk of their support has already drifted back to the Tories anyway

For the Tories that's the worst possible scenario, as it'll mean votes syphoned away from their candidate "for no reason". If I was Brexit-minded, I'd be advising the Brexit Party not to field a candidate at all unless they are confident that candidate CAN win the seat.

[user104658]

I just saw a Sun article stating that a Tory victory is a dead cert because of flat %age opinion polls on the parties . I'm sure they KNOW that's not how the UK electoral system works, it's flat out ridiculous that they're blatantly trying to miseducate their readers into thinking that it is.

[arista]

Corbyn is now Live
He Wants a General Election

As no deal is now removed

[Tom4784]

If the Brexit party play up that Boris is an incompetent leader that can't take them out of the EU like they did with May then they could be a real threat to Tories. Nigel Farage is a twat but he knows how to rile up likeminded individuals to vote the way he wants them too and I doubt his ego would allow him to not field candidates wherever he can.

[user104658]

Honestly it's such a farce.

"OK you have 3 additional months to sort out Brexit..."
"Great!"
"Are you going to use that time to actually put some sort of plan together that is workable?"
"Nah we're going to have a GE and then probs a holiday and we'll be back on January 25th."

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

If the Brexit party play up that Boris is an incompetent leader that can't take them out of the EU like they did with May then they could be a real threat to Tories. Nigel Farage is a twat but he knows how to rile up likeminded individuals to vote the way he wants them too and I doubt his ego would allow him to not field candidates wherever he can.

To be fair, UKIP never put any sort of dent in the voting even at the height of all of this, pre or post referendum, and despite the party line... I think even Sun readers realise that Brexit party is just UKIP 2.0. Farage being the face of it will likely confuse a lot of them into thinking that it's literally the same party with a new name .

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

To be fair, UKIP never put any sort of dent in the voting even at the height of all of this, pre or post referendum, and despite the party line... I think even Sun readers realise that Brexit party is just UKIP 2.0. Farage being the face of it will likely confuse a lot of them into thinking that it's literally the same party with a new name .

If they can replicate even part of the success that Farage had when he fronted UKIP, the tories should be worried. They're also dealing with the fallout of May's reign to boot.

Of course, if that happens we run the risk of a Brexit/Tory coalition which is the worst case scenario.

[Oliver_W]

tbh I don't think No Deal should be taken off the table - not because I want to leave with No Deal, but so we have an extra hand to play when it comes to negotiating with the EU.

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

To be fair, UKIP never put any sort of dent in the voting even at the height of all of this, pre or post referendum, and despite the party line... I think even Sun readers realise that Brexit party is just UKIP 2.0. Farage being the face of it will likely confuse a lot of them into thinking that it's literally the same party with a new name .

Isn't it though? My impression was that Farage didn't like the way extremiists were attached to UKIP, so formed this second party? For all the good it did

[bots]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Honestly it's such a farce.

"OK you have 3 additional months to sort out Brexit..."
"Great!"
"Are you going to use that time to actually put some sort of plan together that is workable?"
"Nah we're going to have a GE and then probs a holiday and we'll be back on January 25th."

At least they can't do anything bad in that time

[Tom4784]

No deal should never be on the table when you have the likes of Boris acting on behalf of his masters trying to do everything he can to force it through despite the ramfications it'll have for most of the country. They cannot be trusted, Boris pretty much sank his own deal in order to force no deal and he'd do that and more if the option was on the table.

[arista]

How Stupid of those Labour Rebels
to put a amendment for all
England Young 16 year old to vote.

Its been reported that the Dpt. Speaker
in charge will not allow that
As it takes 6months to set up


The SNP said yesterday
it may not have time to fit in 16years old votes in England


It can not be done in 6 weeks
is the Valid point.

[Twosugars]

I hope this election bill fails

[The Slim Reaper]

Anyone drawing false equivalence between the 2 main parties, need to listen to what Corbyn has been saying he wants to change about our society, versus what the tories have actually done to get us here.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by arista

How Stupid of those Labour Rebels
to put a amendment for all
England Young 16 year old to vote.

Its been reported that the Dpt. Speaker
in charge will not allow that
As it takes 6months to set up


The SNP said yesterday
it may not have time to fit in 16years old votes in England


It can not be done in 6 weeks
is the Valid point.

So then make it 10 weeks, or 12 weeks, or 15 weeks. This is an unnecessary timetable forced on us by Johnson for his own goals and agenda. We were given another extension to sort out brexit, and instead the tories are using this one as they did the last, for themselves.