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Old 08-11-2019, 07:17 PM #626
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"Labour allege"


Of course they do.


You need to post FACTS
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Why would any government pursue a policy that damages the country?
Brexit

Because it was Voted in.
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Because it was Voted in.
By an ADVISORY referendum.
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By an ADVISORY referendum.

Yes
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So, if the NHS didn’t outsource operations to the private sector I would have lost my sight.
Bring it on I say.
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The point is they should not need to outsource but do it inhouse.
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So, if the NHS didn’t outsource operations to the private sector I would have lost my sight.
Bring it on I say.
They outsource to private sector because the resources of the public NHS have been run into the ground. If the NHS was properly funded there would be no need to outsource.

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They outsource to private sector because the resources of the public NHS have been run into the ground. If the NHS was properly funded there would be no need to outsource.
Hopefully they can stop the vicious circle. Find more staff and get more money pumped in.
But until they do then there is a need for the outsourcing.
Some ops and treatment just can’t wait.
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They outsource to private sector because the resources of the public NHS have been run into the ground. If the NHS was properly funded there would be no need to outsource.
outsourcing is not the same as privatisation though. With privatisation, one doesnt get treatment unless one pays the health insurance plan. With outsourcing, its managed under the NHS with no additional cost to the patient. There is nothing inherently wrong with outsourcing
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...there is a huge amount of information regarding outsourcing within the NHS...and the vulnerabilities it creates../...many, many sites on the topic...but I’ll just quote this one little bit...

The now liquidated Carillion holds several contracts with the NHS, mostly in catering, car-parking and estates. Following the company’s collapse, the precarious nature of outsourcing within our health service has been painfully exposed. Unlike publicly owned companies which do not serve to make profit, the risk-taking nature of big-business contractors like Carillion leaves them vulnerable to collapse. As a direct result, big hospital building projects such as the Midland Metropolitan Hospital in Birmingham and the Royal Liverpool University Hospital have been delayed. Unsurprisingly, the public, NHS staff and politicians have begun to wonder how many more weaknesses lie just beneath the surface.

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk...hs-outsourcing
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LibDems are saying a baby from 9months
can get Child Care.

But of course LibDems can not take power
so she the leader can say anything..............................
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Taken from today's Ridge 9AM new Saturday show

Yes Layla YOU are totally Deluded
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Yes Layla YOU are totally Deluded
Honestly I think it's possible but unlikely. Both major parties have problems with their leadership, and while I don't think it will happen, and I wouldn't be surprised if she did become PM.
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While its theoretically possible for the lib dems to be in government, the odds or completely stacked against them. If they became the opposition it would be a massive step up.

The best we can hope for now is that the tories don't get a massive majority. If they get a big majority, the country is stuffed
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While its theoretically possible for the lib dems to be in government, the odds or completely stacked against them. If they became the opposition it would be a massive step up.

The best we can hope for now is that the tories don't get a massive majority. If they get a big majority, the country is stuffed
I quite like the current iteration of the Lib Dems, but I'd like them more as an Opposition party against the Tories with a slight majority.
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The LibDems can NOT
Delete Brexit



And
20 MP's is not enough to expand to 300.
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A Labour MP has denied altering the lyrics of the Beatles song Hey Jude to “Hey Jews” while a fellow politician is accused of repeatedly using the word “****” during a coach journey last year.

Daniel Carden, who as the shadow international development secretary, is accused by BuzzFeed of singing an adapted version of the song while on a trip from the Cheltenham festival to London.

Conor McGinn, a former Labour whip who is standing for re-election as MP for St Helens North, is reported by the website to have repeatedly called another colleague a “****” during the same journey on 15 March 2018
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Sayeeda Warsi has denounced her Conservative party colleague Matt Hancock for “whitesplaining” Islamophobia to her after he suggested “there are others who take a more balanced approach” to the issue.

Lady Warsi responded furiously to Hancock, the health secretary, after his comments on BBC Radio 4’s Today programme while addressing the Conservative party’s decision not to hold an inquiry into Islamophobia.
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